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Now that's a BURGER!! - Treloar Bar & Grill
 -  + Stopped at 2 pm on a Sunday afternoon and had THE BEST hamburger ever--actually a double hamburger that was so thick I ate it as 2 burgers each on half a bun. The staff made us feel welcome and chatte...
Discussion started 09/22/2007 09:24 PM by Kellys - 9 replies (last reply by skip at 10/02/2007 09:58 PM)
Kellys on 09/22/2007 09:24 PM
Stopped at 2 pm on a Sunday afternoon and had THE BEST hamburger ever--actually a double hamburger that was so thick I ate it as 2 burgers each on half a bun. The staff made us feel welcome and chatted freely about the area, the Trail and shared some local lore.

While off our normal route, will try to get back here if anywhere in the area!!

 
Kellys on 09/22/2007 09:24 PM
Stopped at 2 pm on a Sunday afternoon and had THE BEST hamburger ever--actually a double hamburger that was so thick I ate it as 2 burgers each on half a bun. The staff made us feel welcome and chatted freely about the area, the Trail and shared some local lore.

While off our normal route, will try to get back here if anywhere in the area!!

 
Anonymous on 09/22/2007 11:29 PM
WOW....you just cant get a burger like that just anywhere. They're pretty hard to find.

 
Anonymous on 09/22/2007 11:29 PM
WOW....you just cant get a burger like that just anywhere. They're pretty hard to find.

 
MAH from Blue Springs, MO on 09/23/2007 09:40 AM
The homemade pies are great too. Just look to the north as you cross the country road to find the place.

 
MAH from Blue Springs, MO on 09/23/2007 09:40 AM
The homemade pies are great too. Just look to the north as you cross the country road to find the place.

 
rhona lococo from St. Charles on 09/23/2007 01:35 PM
Where is this BURGER place ? ------ we travel the road to Clinton from St Charles often ------- can you reach it by car ?-----waiting for info ----- Making the trip on Tuesday

 
rhona lococo from St. Charles on 09/23/2007 01:35 PM
Where is this BURGER place ? ------ we travel the road to Clinton from St Charles often ------- can you reach it by car ?-----waiting for info ----- Making the trip on Tuesday

 
Anonymous on 09/23/2007 03:49 PM
Just past the trailhead by the town with the grain elevator.

 
Anonymous on 09/23/2007 03:49 PM
Just past the trailhead by the town with the grain elevator.

 
El Toro on 09/23/2007 07:58 PM
This is quite the post. Thanks for all the useful information.

 
El Toro on 09/23/2007 07:58 PM
This is quite the post. Thanks for all the useful information.

 
Anonymous on 09/24/2007 08:36 AM
It looks like another one of those St. Charles type businesses that goes incognito on the web with vital information. You know, one where you have to call for more information. You might try 1-800-WHERE'S DA BURGER.

 
Anonymous on 09/24/2007 08:36 AM
It looks like another one of those St. Charles type businesses that goes incognito on the web with vital information. You know, one where you have to call for more information. You might try 1-800-WHERE'S DA BURGER.

 
cindy from muscatine,iowa on 09/24/2007 08:47 AM
so what town is tis burger place in?? my husband wants to visit st. charles and he loves a good burger!! where do we need to go??

 
cindy from muscatine,iowa on 09/24/2007 08:47 AM
so what town is tis burger place in?? my husband wants to visit st. charles and he loves a good burger!! where do we need to go??

 
Ray (webmaster) on 09/24/2007 11:14 AM
Sorry for the confusion, folks. Because this website lets you enter comments from the various town web pages or from the various business pages, sometimes people's forum notes don't spell out exactly which location they're talking about. I added "Treloar Bar & Grill" to the subject of this thread, because that's what restaurant the original message was about (in the town of Treloar, of course).

 
Ray (webmaster) on 09/24/2007 11:14 AM
Sorry for the confusion, folks. Because this website lets you enter comments from the various town web pages or from the various business pages, sometimes people's forum notes don't spell out exactly which location they're talking about. I added "Treloar Bar & Grill" to the subject of this thread, because that's what restaurant the original message was about (in the town of Treloar, of course).

 
skip from Hannibal on 10/02/2007 09:58 PM
AMEN to the "burger" !!!! I've had some good ones, but NONE better than the ones served up at the "Treloar Bar & Grill" in Treloar !!!! By car, it is just off of Hwy 94. You can't miss it. REAL FRIENDLY place....and if you're camping, they'll let you pitch your tent right out back.

 
skip from Hannibal on 10/02/2007 09:58 PM
AMEN to the "burger" !!!! I've had some good ones, but NONE better than the ones served up at the "Treloar Bar & Grill" in Treloar !!!! By car, it is just off of Hwy 94. You can't miss it. REAL FRIENDLY place....and if you're camping, they'll let you pitch your tent right out back.


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Amtrak Along the Katy Trail
 -  + We biked from Sedalia to Washington in September of 2007. The train ride back was a much fun and headache free as the bike trip! the staff was helpful and friendly and the scenery of course is great...
Discussion started 10/01/2007 05:52 PM by Canyoncamper - 0 replies
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:52 PM
We biked from Sedalia to Washington in September of 2007. The train ride back was a much fun and headache free as the bike trip! the staff was helpful and friendly and the scenery of course is great.


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Washington
 -  + That MO river bridge is VERY dangerous. Even after a warning to not try and cross it, I did try and cross it...bad idea. I ended up calling a cab. A reasonably priced cab company ($15 to take us to Du...
Discussion started 07/03/2007 09:57 PM by jasonamanda - 1 reply (last reply by Canyoncamper at 10/01/2007 05:46 PM)
jasonamanda from Green Ridge MO on 07/03/2007 09:57 PM
That MO river bridge is VERY dangerous. Even after a warning to not try and cross it, I did try and cross it...bad idea. I ended up calling a cab. A reasonably priced cab company ($15 to take us to Dutzow TH)in Washington is "Hey Taxi", #636-234-6360. Interesting fellow and much safer than crossing the bridge.

 
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:46 PM
Did the bridge on a Saturday. I'm used to road cycling and found motorists courteous and safe. would bike it anytime except with kids.


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Wine Valley Inn (Hermann)
 -  + Stayed here for 2 nights in September. Nice room and good hostesses. would definately stay here again.
Discussion started 10/01/2007 05:45 PM by Canyoncamper - 0 replies
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:45 PM
Stayed here for 2 nights in September. Nice room and good hostesses. would definately stay here again.

 
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:45 PM
Stayed here for 2 nights in September. Nice room and good hostesses. would definately stay here again.


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RiverView Suites (Boonville)
 -  + We stayed there last week during a Clinton to St Charles to Clinton ride in 7 days. The room is upstairs in a building adjacent to the trail. You will need to hoist your bikes upstairs. The furnish...
Discussion started 10/07/2006 06:28 PM by rfc - 1 reply (last reply by Canyoncamper at 10/01/2007 05:36 PM)
rfc from Shoreview MN on 10/07/2006 06:28 PM
We stayed there last week during a Clinton to St Charles to Clinton ride in 7 days. The room is upstairs in a building adjacent to the trail. You will need to hoist your bikes upstairs. The furnishings are very nice; it has a kitchen and laundry facilities. Breakfast is served in a restaurant downstairs. A newly wed couple could live in this suite and do well.

 
rfc from Shoreview MN on 10/07/2006 06:28 PM
We stayed there last week during a Clinton to St Charles to Clinton ride in 7 days. The room is upstairs in a building adjacent to the trail. You will need to hoist your bikes upstairs. The furnishings are very nice; it has a kitchen and laundry facilities. Breakfast is served in a restaurant downstairs. A newly wed couple could live in this suite and do well.

 
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:36 PM
This is a great place. There's a full kitchen and the grocery store is about 8 blocks away. Will stay here again.

 
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:36 PM
This is a great place. There's a full kitchen and the grocery store is about 8 blocks away. Will stay here again.


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Sedalia lodging
 -  + If you plan to use the train to shuttle to/ from Sedalia the Hotel Bothwell is 4 blocks from train stop and they have a full breakfast included.
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Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:33 PM
If you plan to use the train to shuttle to/ from Sedalia the Hotel Bothwell is 4 blocks from train stop and they have a full breakfast included.


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Dutzow Deli & Restaurant (Dutzow)
 -  + Has anyone ever camped on the free primitive camp sites behind the restaurant? What was your experience if you did? Thanks!
Discussion started 10/01/2007 04:52 PM by Erin - 0 replies
Erin from St. Louis on 10/01/2007 04:52 PM
Has anyone ever camped on the free primitive camp sites behind the restaurant? What was your experience if you did? Thanks!

 
Erin from St. Louis on 10/01/2007 04:52 PM
Has anyone ever camped on the free primitive camp sites behind the restaurant? What was your experience if you did? Thanks!


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Lunch Box Corner Deli (Pilot Grove)
 -  + I was the frist person in the place on Wednesday. Fresh sandwiches, quick service, plenty of room to relax. You can see the shop from the trailhead.
Discussion started 09/25/2007 07:55 PM by Curt - 1 reply (last reply by Brian L. at 10/01/2007 12:11 PM)
Curt from Lincoln, NE on 09/25/2007 07:55 PM
I was the frist person in the place on Wednesday. Fresh sandwiches, quick service, plenty of room to relax. You can see the shop from the trailhead.

 
Curt from Lincoln, NE on 09/25/2007 07:55 PM
I was the frist person in the place on Wednesday. Fresh sandwiches, quick service, plenty of room to relax. You can see the shop from the trailhead.

 
Brian L. from Wichita, KS on 10/01/2007 12:11 PM
... and the homemade vegetable beef soup is hearty & delicious! Friendly folks, too.

 
Brian L. from Wichita, KS on 10/01/2007 12:11 PM
... and the homemade vegetable beef soup is hearty & delicious! Friendly folks, too.


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Cliff Manor Bed & Breakfast Inn (Jefferson City)
 -  + Thom is an excellent host! This was our first trip to the Katy Trail and did not expect this kind of service. Great room with view of the river and Capitol building. Need to make this a destination ...
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Gary and Aimee from Bella Vista AR on 10/01/2007 12:25 AM
Thom is an excellent host! This was our first trip to the Katy Trail and did not expect this kind of service. Great room with view of the river and Capitol building. Need to make this a destination on your trip to the Katy

 
Gary and Aimee from Bella Vista AR on 10/01/2007 12:25 AM
Thom is an excellent host! This was our first trip to the Katy Trail and did not expect this kind of service. Great room with view of the river and Capitol building. Need to make this a destination on your trip to the Katy


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Best Route from Rocheport Trailhead (Rocheport)
 -  + My husband and I will be staying in Rocheport in October and are looking for a 25 to 50 mile roundtrip ride out of Rocheport. It looks like we could either go west to Boonville or east to Easely. Wh...
Discussion started 09/10/2007 04:16 PM by Julie - 7 replies (last reply by Dena at 09/30/2007 07:48 PM)
Julie from Galena, IL on 09/10/2007 04:16 PM
My husband and I will be staying in Rocheport in October and are looking for a 25 to 50 mile roundtrip ride out of Rocheport. It looks like we could either go west to Boonville or east to Easely. Which route would you recommend for scenery, points of interest, flatness, etc.? Thanks!

 
Julie from Galena, IL on 09/10/2007 04:16 PM
My husband and I will be staying in Rocheport in October and are looking for a 25 to 50 mile roundtrip ride out of Rocheport. It looks like we could either go west to Boonville or east to Easely. Which route would you recommend for scenery, points of interest, flatness, etc.? Thanks!

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/10/2007 04:47 PM
East of Rocheport for scenery.....west to log miles.



Beings you'll be close, for a fun side trip check out the Chestnut Festival in New Franklin on October 13th if you are visiting MO that weekend.

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/10/2007 04:47 PM
East of Rocheport for scenery.....west to log miles.



Beings you'll be close, for a fun side trip check out the Chestnut Festival in New Franklin on October 13th if you are visiting MO that weekend.

 
MAH from Blue Springs, MO on 09/10/2007 08:45 PM
Totally agree with west for miles and east for scenery. I think it's the first Sat in Oct that Lucy's Bar and Grill in McBaine has the annual "testicle festival" if you like those sort of things. If you're not sure about it, they are cow testicles/mountain oysters, sliced and deep fried. The hubby likes them...for me, I'll order a cheeseburger.

 
MAH from Blue Springs, MO on 09/10/2007 08:45 PM
Totally agree with west for miles and east for scenery. I think it's the first Sat in Oct that Lucy's Bar and Grill in McBaine has the annual "testicle festival" if you like those sort of things. If you're not sure about it, they are cow testicles/mountain oysters, sliced and deep fried. The hubby likes them...for me, I'll order a cheeseburger.

 
El Toro on 09/11/2007 07:56 AM
Rocheport east to Hartsburg is 25 miles...making your 50 mile round trip. There is a big pumpkin festival some time in October in Hartsburg. I don't know the exact date, but it is fun as my wife and I happened onto it last year.

 
El Toro on 09/11/2007 07:56 AM
Rocheport east to Hartsburg is 25 miles...making your 50 mile round trip. There is a big pumpkin festival some time in October in Hartsburg. I don't know the exact date, but it is fun as my wife and I happened onto it last year.

 
Cliff from Edwardsville KS on 09/11/2007 11:30 AM
Go East! The scenery is great, the river is on one side and high bluffs on the other. The trial is flat and it is a nice easy ride. I would ride to Hartburg and then back to Rocheport. While in Hartsburg you can grab lunch at Dotties or the Summit Hill Winery. I have eaten at both and both are very good, it just depends on if you want a meal or just a light lunch. Dotties has very good meals and the winery has very good pizza and wine. The winery has a very nice outside patio where you can set and watch the trail while you eat and relax. Be sure and ride to the west end of Rocheport and see the tunnel. My Wife and I have enjoyed this ride several times. We start out with a good breakfast at the Trialside Cafe and Bike shop and then eat lunch in Hartsburg. It's about 25 miles or so each way so it makes for an enjoyble day on the trail. There will be alot of people on the trail on a Saturday but that should be no problem. Check out the towns listed on the mileage chart on this site and they will list all the points of interest along the trail to be sure and see. Have a great ride!

 
Cliff from Edwardsville KS on 09/11/2007 11:30 AM
Go East! The scenery is great, the river is on one side and high bluffs on the other. The trial is flat and it is a nice easy ride. I would ride to Hartburg and then back to Rocheport. While in Hartsburg you can grab lunch at Dotties or the Summit Hill Winery. I have eaten at both and both are very good, it just depends on if you want a meal or just a light lunch. Dotties has very good meals and the winery has very good pizza and wine. The winery has a very nice outside patio where you can set and watch the trail while you eat and relax. Be sure and ride to the west end of Rocheport and see the tunnel. My Wife and I have enjoyed this ride several times. We start out with a good breakfast at the Trialside Cafe and Bike shop and then eat lunch in Hartsburg. It's about 25 miles or so each way so it makes for an enjoyble day on the trail. There will be alot of people on the trail on a Saturday but that should be no problem. Check out the towns listed on the mileage chart on this site and they will list all the points of interest along the trail to be sure and see. Have a great ride!

 
Julie from Galena, IL on 09/11/2007 03:18 PM
Thanks to all for your advice to go east! We are looking forward to our first time on the Katy Trail!

 
Julie from Galena, IL on 09/11/2007 03:18 PM
Thanks to all for your advice to go east! We are looking forward to our first time on the Katy Trail!

 
Linda from Bolivar on 09/22/2007 09:20 PM
Neither eating place was open on Tuesday (at Hartsburg).

 
Linda from Bolivar on 09/22/2007 09:20 PM
Neither eating place was open on Tuesday (at Hartsburg).

 
Dena from st louis on 09/30/2007 07:48 PM
We are planning on doing a 20 (approx) trip in a few weeks and not really sure where to go. Was thinking about the Rocheport area and staying overnight. Does anyone have any suggestions? A winery must be included in the points of interest!!

 
Dena from st louis on 09/30/2007 07:48 PM
We are planning on doing a 20 (approx) trip in a few weeks and not really sure where to go. Was thinking about the Rocheport area and staying overnight. Does anyone have any suggestions? A winery must be included in the points of interest!!


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Altitude information
 -  + I haven't seen all the commentary on this forum, so this may already have been addressed. I am curious if there are any plans to include the elevations of the various towns along the Katy route?
Discussion started 09/28/2007 01:48 PM by Dan Lowe - 2 replies (last reply by Dan Lowe at 09/30/2007 02:44 PM)
Dan Lowe from Sedalia on 09/28/2007 01:48 PM
I haven't seen all the commentary on this forum, so this may already have been addressed. I am curious if there are any plans to include the elevations of the various towns along the Katy route?

 
Ray (webmaster) on 09/28/2007 01:55 PM
As a matter of fact, one of the items on my to-do list is to add elevation to each of the town web pages, just like you curently see Population and Mile Marker. In the meantime, take a look at the Katy Trail Elevation chart, which gives you a very useful picture of the trail's rise and fall.

 
Dan Lowe from Sedalia on 09/30/2007 02:44 PM
Thank you, Ray. The elevation chart is a great. Thank you for directing me to it.


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Dutzow Deli & Restaurant (Dutzow)
 -  + Great food here, had a nice deli sub on 7 grain bread and also their sneaky snickers desert, yum. Probably one of the best places to eat on the trail. Beats the bar and grill which I ate at two beca...
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Carol from Arkansas on 09/29/2007 09:23 PM
Great food here, had a nice deli sub on 7 grain bread and also their sneaky snickers desert, yum. Probably one of the best places to eat on the trail. Beats the bar and grill which I ate at two because everything else was closed. Also nice that they are open everyday!

 
Carol from Arkansas on 09/29/2007 09:23 PM
Great food here, had a nice deli sub on 7 grain bread and also their sneaky snickers desert, yum. Probably one of the best places to eat on the trail. Beats the bar and grill which I ate at two because everything else was closed. Also nice that they are open everyday!


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Abigails (Rocheport)
 -  + What a find on the trail, gourmet food and at reasonable prices. I had the best ham and cheese sandwich ever on a prezel dough bun.
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Carol from Arkansas on 09/29/2007 09:14 PM
What a find on the trail, gourmet food and at reasonable prices. I had the best ham and cheese sandwich ever on a prezel dough bun.

 
Carol from Arkansas on 09/29/2007 09:14 PM
What a find on the trail, gourmet food and at reasonable prices. I had the best ham and cheese sandwich ever on a prezel dough bun.

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