Where do I start
- + I live in St. Louis County and have never visited the Katy Trail. I'm taking off work on Friday 10/12 to take my grandson bike riding. However I don't know where to go to start biking. Can someone giv...
Discussion started 10/10/2007 11:18 AM by TerryE - 4 replies (last reply by frank at 10/17/2007 02:23 PM)TerryE from St. Louis County on 10/10/2007 11:18 AM
I live in St. Louis County and have never visited the Katy Trail. I'm taking off work on Friday 10/12 to take my grandson bike riding. However I don't know where to go to start biking. Can someone give me some idea's please.
Thank you
Ray (webmaster) on 10/10/2007 01:05 PM
There are so many places to start, and they're all good!
If you're just looking for a convenient location near St Louis, check out the
Parking and Riding Suggestions page. St Charles trailhead and the Page Extension lot are the easiest spots to reach from St Louis.
On that end of the trail, you might start at St Charles if you want to be near businesses and services. You might head north from Weldon Spring if you want to see the river and remote wooded areas. You might go to Augusta if you're interested in wineries and visiting a charming and quaint town. If you want to see river bluffs, your best bet is to go farther west, heading west from McKittrick or east from Rocheport (to name just a few of the many options).
You can ride on the Katy many many times and experience different surroundings each time. Have fun!
frank from festus on 10/11/2007 11:11 PM
hey terry, a nice place to start would be st. charles or defiance. my wife and i rode from st. charles out bouts 10 miles the back. also started at defiance, rode to agusta and back to defiance. both easy rides, and the defiance ride a little more scenic, personal opinion only. either which way, enjoy the ride, and have fun.
Terry from St. Louis County on 10/17/2007 12:41 PM
Hello,
My grandson and I started in Old Town St. Charles and rode south for quite a ways. We didn't go real far, beings it was our first time. But it was soooo nice. I would like to take him to Weldon Springs in a couple of weeks. We packed a lunch and just had a really nice outing. o:)
Terry
frank from festus on 10/17/2007 02:23 PM
hey terry, thanx for letting us know how your trip went. glad you both had fun, and your back safely.
Feral Goats
- + Back in the early '90s, I saw a group (herd?) of wild-looking, shaggy goats with long, stringy fur and longish horns, peering out at me from the rocky hill on my left as I was biking from Rocheport to...
Discussion started 06/25/2007 03:40 PM by biking beginner - 8 replies (last reply by Michael Keller at 10/15/2007 07:45 PM)biking beginner from Farmington on 06/25/2007 03:40 PM
Back in the early '90s, I saw a group (herd?) of wild-looking, shaggy goats with long, stringy fur and longish horns, peering out at me from the rocky hill on my left as I was biking from Rocheport to Easley.
I was reminded of it recently as I participated in the Wild on the Katy ride last week, and I mentioned it to my dad, who said he recollected something about feral goats being decimated by farmers who had a problem with them.
Anyone know anything about this?
howard hughes blues from kc on 06/26/2007 05:10 AM
I saw a goat right on the trail one time. I actually thought it might be some type of wild mountain goat living on the mountain-like bluffs, but I asked a local and he said it was some farmer's goat that got loose. I don't know about wild feral goats. Maybe.
biking beginner from Farmington on 06/26/2007 02:54 PM
Was it shaggy? My dad was saying that yes, they were formerly domesticated but turned feral.
Then again, he's pulled my chain before, pun intended.
howard hughes blues from kc on 06/26/2007 06:10 PM
all goats are shaggy.
Anonymous on 06/26/2007 07:08 PM
There is a farmer that has a field of goats on the east side of the trail maybe a mile before Huntsdale which would be maybe midway between Rocheport and Easly. Maybe he had some get loose.
DougK from Troy on 06/29/2007 09:58 AM
FYI: You can see one of these goats if you go to Klondike Park in Augusta. Follow the road to the scenic overview behind the conference center, he's usually up there grazing in the field.
biking beginner from Farmington on 06/29/2007 05:09 PM
Did I say "shaggy?" These had long strands of fur, practically touching the ground. The long hair was matted with leaves, twigs, etc. stuck in it. They were in a herd, about 15 feet from the trail with no fence in sight.
Guess I was dreaming it. I've seen farm goats before, and these weren't it.
howard hughes blues from kc on 06/30/2007 04:41 AM
the one I saw had pretty healthy looking white hair. It's entirely possible imho, that a herd of feral goats could survive in that area. plenty of food and water.
Michael Keller from Saint Louis, MO on 10/15/2007 07:45 PM
Last year (the last week of September), I was behind the Conference Center in Klondike Park, and I, too, have seen this goat. He's definitely not an escapee from a farmer. This thing has long shaggy grey hair, curled "Ram's horns", and a temper! I did manage to get a couple pictures of him before he bluffed me by pawing the ground, shaking his head - and running right up the side of the bluff. This week, I went further up the mountain (the back trail), and I could definitely smell him - the greasy, musky wild smell. I could smell him in a couple different areas. I also saw goat droppings. He's more than Klondike legend - he's very real! This is "winery weather", and the park was busy. I heard several people from various groups talking about the "billy goat".
Hermann highway 19 Bridge.
- + If by ill luck you get into the McKittrick trailhead after dark and you have not arrainged a shuttle across the Mo19 bridge into Hermann, I recommend you consider camping out on the McKittrick side. <...
Discussion started 05/28/2005 01:42 PM by Ranj - 3 replies (last reply by BoatnBiker at 10/15/2007 06:14 PM)Ranj from KC on 05/28/2005 01:42 PM
If by ill luck you get into the McKittrick trailhead after dark and you have not arrainged a shuttle across the Mo19 bridge into Hermann, I recommend you consider camping out on the McKittrick side.
I have been riding a long time on streets, roads, and highways and never had a more harrowing, less enjoyable experience.
During the day I have generally not had bad experiences, but at night, something changes in the character of the drivers on that bridge.
It desperately needs to be replaced.
Ranj from KC on 05/28/2005 01:42 PM
If by ill luck you get into the McKittrick trailhead after dark and you have not arrainged a shuttle across the Mo19 bridge into Hermann, I recommend you consider camping out on the McKittrick side.
I have been riding a long time on streets, roads, and highways and never had a more harrowing, less enjoyable experience.
During the day I have generally not had bad experiences, but at night, something changes in the character of the drivers on that bridge.
It desperately needs to be replaced.
Ranj from KC on 05/28/2005 01:42 PM
If by ill luck you get into the McKittrick trailhead after dark and you have not arrainged a shuttle across the Mo19 bridge into Hermann, I recommend you consider camping out on the McKittrick side.
I have been riding a long time on streets, roads, and highways and never had a more harrowing, less enjoyable experience.
During the day I have generally not had bad experiences, but at night, something changes in the character of the drivers on that bridge.
It desperately needs to be replaced.
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:51 PM
Glory be! This weekend we rode the new bridge. so nice and easy!
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:51 PM
Glory be! This weekend we rode the new bridge. so nice and easy!
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:51 PM
Glory be! This weekend we rode the new bridge. so nice and easy!
Anonymous on 10/02/2007 05:06 AM
The new bridge is a piece of cake in the day light. The old bridge plan scary. I think the trail is offically closed after dark. Not safe to be on any trail or bridge after dark.
Anonymous on 10/02/2007 05:06 AM
The new bridge is a piece of cake in the day light. The old bridge plan scary. I think the trail is offically closed after dark. Not safe to be on any trail or bridge after dark.
Anonymous on 10/02/2007 05:06 AM
The new bridge is a piece of cake in the day light. The old bridge plan scary. I think the trail is offically closed after dark. Not safe to be on any trail or bridge after dark.
BoatnBiker from Rhineland on 10/15/2007 06:14 PM
The new bridge is open with a lit bike path. I have not ridden it in the dark but it shouldn't be any trouble as you are seperated from traffic by a wide shoulder as well as a wall.
BoatnBiker from Rhineland on 10/15/2007 06:14 PM
The new bridge is open with a lit bike path. I have not ridden it in the dark but it shouldn't be any trouble as you are seperated from traffic by a wide shoulder as well as a wall.
BoatnBiker from Rhineland on 10/15/2007 06:14 PM
The new bridge is open with a lit bike path. I have not ridden it in the dark but it shouldn't be any trouble as you are seperated from traffic by a wide shoulder as well as a wall.
Steamboat Junction Campground (Bluffton)
- + Rode by here on a miserable, cold, rainy Saturday. Had gone about 20 miles with nothing to drink when I came to Steamboat Campground. They had drinks in a fridge outside and payment was on the honor...
Discussion started 10/14/2007 10:23 PM by JustJoe - 0 repliesJustJoe from St Louis on 10/14/2007 10:23 PM
Rode by here on a miserable, cold, rainy Saturday. Had gone about 20 miles with nothing to drink when I came to Steamboat Campground. They had drinks in a fridge outside and payment was on the honor system (at least when I rode by there was no one to collect the money). So I was more than happy to pay. While I was stopped the owner came out and we chatted about the camping, the cabins and the honor system. What a nice lady and a great place. I'm really glad Steamboat Junction was there when I needed it.
JustJoe from St Louis on 10/14/2007 10:23 PM
Rode by here on a miserable, cold, rainy Saturday. Had gone about 20 miles with nothing to drink when I came to Steamboat Campground. They had drinks in a fridge outside and payment was on the honor system (at least when I rode by there was no one to collect the money). So I was more than happy to pay. While I was stopped the owner came out and we chatted about the camping, the cabins and the honor system. What a nice lady and a great place. I'm really glad Steamboat Junction was there when I needed it.
Sedalia Trailhead - Depot (Sedalia)
- + Is there an existing list of employees roster from the 30's and 40's? My father(Roy(Raul)Ramirez) was a track supervisor of a track laying team from Katy to Sedalia. The paymaster at that time was a M...
Discussion started 10/14/2007 08:12 PM by Roy Ramirez, Jr. - 0 repliesRoy Ramirez, Jr. from Oklahoma City on 10/14/2007 08:12 PM
Is there an existing list of employees roster from the 30's and 40's? My father(Roy(Raul)Ramirez) was a track supervisor of a track laying team from Katy to Sedalia. The paymaster at that time was a Mr. Wendte. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Roy Ramirez, Jr.
Roy Ramirez, Jr. from Oklahoma City on 10/14/2007 08:12 PM
Is there an existing list of employees roster from the 30's and 40's? My father(Roy(Raul)Ramirez) was a track supervisor of a track laying team from Katy to Sedalia. The paymaster at that time was a Mr. Wendte. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Roy Ramirez, Jr.
Katy Trail
- + 21w1e`3
Discussion started 10/14/2007 06:40 PM by 234 - 0 replies234 from 234r on 10/14/2007 06:40 PM
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Terry & Kathy's Tavern (Defiance)
- + This is a very fun stop.
Whether you need to stop and stretch or stop for a pizza and beer. This parking lot is often full, but if your on a bicycle, parking is everywhere and free.
A must stop...
Discussion started 10/13/2007 10:16 PM by Donna - 0 repliesDonna from St Louis on 10/13/2007 10:16 PM
This is a very fun stop.
Whether you need to stop and stretch or stop for a pizza and beer. This parking lot is often full, but if your on a bicycle, parking is everywhere and free.
A must stop and see
Donna from St Louis on 10/13/2007 10:16 PM
This is a very fun stop.
Whether you need to stop and stretch or stop for a pizza and beer. This parking lot is often full, but if your on a bicycle, parking is everywhere and free.
A must stop and see
RT Weilers (St Charles)
- + They have the best wings and great smoked meat. The only way to eat here is up at the bar where u get the fastest service, we sat at a table once and the service was awful but the food was fabulous, ...
Discussion started 10/13/2007 04:50 PM - 0 repliesAnonymous from st. charles on 10/13/2007 04:50 PM
They have the best wings and great smoked meat. The only way to eat here is up at the bar where u get the fastest service, we sat at a table once and the service was awful but the food was fabulous, now its only the bar for us.
Anonymous from st. charles on 10/13/2007 04:50 PM
They have the best wings and great smoked meat. The only way to eat here is up at the bar where u get the fastest service, we sat at a table once and the service was awful but the food was fabulous, now its only the bar for us.
Swan Haven Inn (Augusta)
- + We enjoyed our night stay very much. Your house is very beautiful and we enjoyed our room and the bed was very comfortable. The hot tub was to die for after a long bike ride. The breakfast was excelle...
Discussion started 10/13/2007 03:25 PM by Donita and Greg - 0 repliesDonita and Greg from Great Bend,KS on 10/13/2007 03:25 PM
We enjoyed our night stay very much. Your house is very beautiful and we enjoyed our room and the bed was very comfortable. The hot tub was to die for after a long bike ride. The breakfast was excellent and helped give us extra fuel for another ride. We would recommend the swan haven to anyone!!!!!
Donita and Greg from Great Bend,KS on 10/13/2007 03:25 PM
We enjoyed our night stay very much. Your house is very beautiful and we enjoyed our room and the bed was very comfortable. The hot tub was to die for after a long bike ride. The breakfast was excellent and helped give us extra fuel for another ride. We would recommend the swan haven to anyone!!!!!
topeak comp 140
- + where i put the values of real wheel size in this ciclocomputer?
Discussion started 10/12/2007 06:37 PM by henrique - 1 reply (last reply by Gary at 10/13/2007 08:59 AM)henrique from Porto Alegre on 10/12/2007 06:37 PM
where i put the values of real wheel size in this ciclocomputer?
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 10/13/2007 08:59 AM
Follow this link to download the instructions for the Topeak Comp 140:
http://topeak.com/sub/documents/M-TPC5-GB-5-05.pdf
You can enlarge the view of the PDF file in case you are having problems reading the fine print.
Birk's Gasthaus (Hermann)
- + Rick was a great host. He really provided a great atmosphere. Room was comfortable.
Shower was great. Breakfast was good and company was entertaining. Not sure if it's
standard service bu...
Discussion started 10/12/2007 08:37 PM by David and Tyler Kate Ferguson - 0 repliesDavid and Tyler Kate Ferguson from Bloomington, Indiana on 10/12/2007 08:37 PM
Rick was a great host. He really provided a great atmosphere. Room was comfortable.
Shower was great. Breakfast was good and company was entertaining. Not sure if it's
standard service but Rick made us brownies at nite - maybe he just wanted brownies and
decided to share, but he made us feel like welcome guests. We recommend Birks.
David and Tyler Kate Ferguson from Bloomington, Indiana on 10/12/2007 08:37 PM
Rick was a great host. He really provided a great atmosphere. Room was comfortable.
Shower was great. Breakfast was good and company was entertaining. Not sure if it's
standard service but Rick made us brownies at nite - maybe he just wanted brownies and
decided to share, but he made us feel like welcome guests. We recommend Birks.
wineries
- + We were biking the KATY Trail in the Defiance area and stumbled upon the greatest little winery "Yellow Farmhouse Winery" They have been there for several years, but recently opened a tasting room thi...
Discussion started 09/28/2007 01:44 PM by rj from manchester - 1 reply (last reply by Sarah G at 10/11/2007 12:01 PM)rj from manchester from manchester mo on 09/28/2007 01:44 PM
We were biking the KATY Trail in the Defiance area and stumbled upon the greatest little winery "Yellow Farmhouse Winery" They have been there for several years, but recently opened a tasting room this summer. The owner and Winemaker, toured us through his vineyard and the quaint (but amazingly high-tech) winery. The tasting was a revelation! He taught us more about Missouri Wines in 30 minutes than we had learned in a lifetime. They don't provide a place to sit and drink wine, but the tasting room is unique with lots of interesting touches. Complete with oak barrels, a real bottling machine and free water for Katy Trail Bikers, what a treasure. They do charge $5.00 for tasting which is unlimited, you get to keep a beautiful embossed wine glass and the tasting fee is applied against the purchase of wine. It's a very friendly spot to stop, and a welcome contrast to the larger "impersonal" wineries. We highly recommend it as a "must see".
Sarah G from Chesterfield on 10/11/2007 12:01 PM
Thanks for the tip rj. We visited the Yellow Farm House Winery on Sunday and absolutely loved the atmosphere. We met a gentleman who informed us they will be opening their hillside next spring for picnics etc. The hillside has the most awesome view of the river valley. We took a tour of the winery and learned all about the wine making process. The Yellow Farm House Winery is a more personal alternative to some of the larger wineries that seem to cater to the inebriated if you know what I mean. We will definitely return next spring with our children for an afternoon picnic. We rate this a "must see" on the Katy Trail.
Places to spend the night between St. Charles and Defiance?
- + We're planning a trip on the Katy Trail in less than two weeks from now, and I just now realized how short notice it is for the local B&B's along the trail. (I had just recently found out about KT.) ...
Discussion started 10/01/2007 10:19 PM by Rachel - 10 replies (last reply by ET at 10/11/2007 11:55 AM)Rachel from Southern Illinois on 10/01/2007 10:19 PM
We're planning a trip on the Katy Trail in less than two weeks from now, and I just now realized how short notice it is for the local B&B's along the trail. (I had just recently found out about KT.) Not only that, but we are taking two small children with us...a 2 year old and a 4 year old. It would seem a lot of B&B's have a no children policy, and frankly it would be a little inconvenient to have them in one of those rooms. Does anyone know of any alternative places to stay? We would rather make this a weekend trip instead of just one day, since we have two small ones and would like to break it up for them. Thanks!
Dave from Herrin, Ill on 10/02/2007 10:29 AM
How far are you planning on riding per day?
Cliff from Edwardsville KS on 10/02/2007 10:36 AM
Rachel, There is nothing between St. Charles and Defiance. About half way there is a trailhead with a restroom but no water. If you are going to ride that route be sure and take plenty of water. The only alternative is to ride to Defiance and back to St. Charles or ride on to Augusta.
Rachel from Southern Illinois on 10/02/2007 01:53 PM
Dave, we had been planning on taking our time and riding to Defiance, then riding back to St. Charles the next day. Seems like a long way to take the kids, but they love bike rides and I'm thinking if we stop often and take breaks, we should be fine. If there is no place to stay, though, we'll have to make it a shorter trip...I can't expect them to ride around 40 miles in one day. One will be in a trailer and the other on a trail-a-bike (until she tires out, then she'll be in the trailer too).
Do you have suggestions for a better section to bike? Should we drive to a different town to start our trip, rather than starting in St. Charles?
Rachel from Southern Illinois on 10/02/2007 01:54 PM
Oops, sorry for the double post!
Cliff, does Augusta have some more choices for places to stay?
Ray (webmaster) on 10/02/2007 03:10 PM
Rachel, one option is to reverse your trip - start in Defiance, spend the night in St Charles, and then ride back to Defiance the next day. This has a couple of advantages:
1. If you still have energy to walk around after your ride, there are many things to do and see in downtown St Charles. Main Street is a great place to stroll around, shop, eat, etc. There's a park on the riverfront, a Lewis & Clark museum, and more.
2. St Charles has a ton of lodging options. Off the top of my head I'm not sure which St Charles B&B's take kids, but there are also several traditional hotel/motels there (most of which are up on Fifth Street, but Country Inn & Suites is right on the trail). Click St Charles on the map at the top of this webpage for a full listing; you'll also see links next to some of the hotels that you can click to check availability and rates.
I removed your duplicate post, in case you were wondering where it went.
Good luck!
Rachel from Southern Illinois on 10/02/2007 03:54 PM
Ray...thank you from the bottom of my heart. Not sure why I didn't think of that. I had heard the scenery around St. Charles was beautiful and didn't really want to miss it, but wasn't sure what else to do. Backwards is a perfect option! I would feel much more comfortable taking the kids to a traditional hotel, where we would all feel more welcome and not worry about messing up someone's well-kept B&B. And I can see there's lots to do. Thanks, again. I've been racking my brain all afternoon trying to decide what to do.
Thanks for removing my post, too.
Dave from Herrin, Ill on 10/03/2007 07:42 AM
Rachel, My wife and I have stayed at country inn and suits several times. Its a nice property with a indoor pool and free breakfast.
Have a great trip. PS Have you been to the Tunnel Hill Trail?
Trek Biker & Co. on 10/03/2007 04:32 PM
The Tunnel Hill Trail is a fantastic ride....would love to do it in the fall when the leaves are at peak.
ET from Columbia, MO on 10/11/2007 11:54 AM
I think doing it "in reverse" is probably best, but we have found Das Gast Haus Nadler in Defiance to be very accomodating when we have biked with our kids. No pool, but an indoor hot tub, and a fabulous breakfast. Each room has access to the big wrap-around porch.
ET from Columbia, MO on 10/11/2007 11:55 AM
I think doing it "in reverse" is probably best, but we have found Das Gast Haus Nadler in Defiance to be very accomodating when we have biked with our kids. No pool, but an indoor hot tub, and a fabulous breakfast. Each room has access to the big wrap-around porch.
type of bikes for trail
- + I have a road bike can one use a road bike safely on the trail? What is the surface like Rough, smooth etc.
Thank-you
Discussion started 10/08/2007 09:43 PM by bj - 2 replies (last reply by trinjboro at 10/10/2007 08:11 AM)bj from il on 10/08/2007 09:43 PM
I have a road bike can one use a road bike safely on the trail? What is the surface like Rough, smooth etc.
Thank-you
Paulie from Knoxville on 10/09/2007 10:23 AM
A road bike will work, just make sure you have the right tires. Personally, I prefer a mt. bike because thats what I normally ride. The surface is packed crushed limestone and is fairly smooth but you may see a few rough spots along the way. Try this link-
http://www.bikekatytrail.com/faq.aspx#tires
Paulie
trinjboro from Jonesboro, AR on 10/10/2007 08:11 AM
I've ridden the trail on all kinds of bikes. A hybrid works best, but a road bike is fine if you don't get a soaking rain. If you do, the surface gets "mushy" and narrow tires tend to sink in. If you have a nice road bike however, I'm not sure I would put it on the KATY as it will be covered with fine, white dust when you're through.
Narrow gate
- + I'm not familiar with the state-provided trail maintenance, or how it works, but perhaps someone with some experience with this could pass along a request to widen the gate at the 210 mile marker wher...
Discussion started 10/09/2007 10:56 PM by Dan Lowe - 0 repliesDan Lowe from Sedalia on 10/09/2007 10:56 PM
I'm not familiar with the state-provided trail maintenance, or how it works, but perhaps someone with some experience with this could pass along a request to widen the gate at the 210 mile marker where the Trail crosses Highway 135. It's just a scooch narrower than all the others I have come across, and a bit disconcerting on a busy roadway. Thanks, Dan
Camping along the trail
- + I prefer to camp when possible. I pull a Bob trailer behind my bike and I was wondering if there are plenty of places open to camping?
Discussion started 10/09/2007 02:10 PM by John B - 1 reply (last reply by Jordan at 10/09/2007 03:27 PM)John B from Columbia, SC on 10/09/2007 02:10 PM
I prefer to camp when possible. I pull a Bob trailer behind my bike and I was wondering if there are plenty of places open to camping?
Jordan on 10/09/2007 03:27 PM
Yes there is.
Garden Gate Bed and Breakfast (Boonville)
- + We stayed here in October 2007, it is one of the nicest b and b experiences I have ever had. Penny is charming, friendly and very helpful. She made a gourmet 3 course breakfast that is the best I have...
Discussion started 10/07/2007 10:35 PM by debbie - 0 repliesdebbie from shawnee kanas on 10/07/2007 10:35 PM
We stayed here in October 2007, it is one of the nicest b and b experiences I have ever had. Penny is charming, friendly and very helpful. She made a gourmet 3 course breakfast that is the best I have ever had at a b and b. She had fresh baked cookies waiting for us upon our arrival and gladly made me some Starbucks coffee to accompany the delicious cookies. Her home is beautiful-this is a wonderful place. We loved sitting on the porch enjoying those cookies!
debbie from shawnee kanas on 10/07/2007 10:35 PM
We stayed here in October 2007, it is one of the nicest b and b experiences I have ever had. Penny is charming, friendly and very helpful. She made a gourmet 3 course breakfast that is the best I have ever had at a b and b. She had fresh baked cookies waiting for us upon our arrival and gladly made me some Starbucks coffee to accompany the delicious cookies. Her home is beautiful-this is a wonderful place. We loved sitting on the porch enjoying those cookies!
Portland
- + they serve up a fish sandwich that is awesome!!!
Discussion started 10/07/2007 07:14 PM - 0 repliesAnonymous from boonville mo on 10/07/2007 07:14 PM
they serve up a fish sandwich that is awesome!!!
Riverfront Bar & Grill (Portland)
- + I hear they will let you camp out behind the bar. Does anyone know for sure?
Discussion started 10/04/2007 01:54 PM by BJ - 1 reply (last reply by Jon at 10/04/2007 07:37 PM)BJ from kansas city on 10/04/2007 01:54 PM
I hear they will let you camp out behind the bar. Does anyone know for sure?
BJ from kansas city on 10/04/2007 01:54 PM
I hear they will let you camp out behind the bar. Does anyone know for sure?
Jon from Missouri on 10/04/2007 07:37 PM
Rivers Edge campground has spots between the bar and the trailhead. Good enough for tent camping. At this point (looked like they might have restrooms in the future) you'll have to use the restrooms at the trailhead or the bar that you can throw a rock at from your campsite. It was 12 or 10 (can't remember) bucks for two riders and bikes with one tent. Bar had cold beer and good bar food. The office is a house right on the trail just West of the trailhead, just look for the sign. All of this stuff is real close together. Rumored that the bar closes down early if it is slow. the campground is listed under Portland on this site and has a phone number.
Jon from Missouri on 10/04/2007 07:37 PM
Rivers Edge campground has spots between the bar and the trailhead. Good enough for tent camping. At this point (looked like they might have restrooms in the future) you'll have to use the restrooms at the trailhead or the bar that you can throw a rock at from your campsite. It was 12 or 10 (can't remember) bucks for two riders and bikes with one tent. Bar had cold beer and good bar food. The office is a house right on the trail just West of the trailhead, just look for the sign. All of this stuff is real close together. Rumored that the bar closes down early if it is slow. the campground is listed under Portland on this site and has a phone number.
day ride with the kids
- + We are looking for a good starting place for a day ride with the kids. My hope is to find a nice place to stay (with an indoor pool) ride for an a few hours, have lunch and then turn around. We have...
Discussion started 10/04/2007 02:57 PM by Erika - 0 repliesErika from Leavenworth on 10/04/2007 02:57 PM
We are looking for a good starting place for a day ride with the kids. My hope is to find a nice place to stay (with an indoor pool) ride for an a few hours, have lunch and then turn around. We have two young children that would love some parks or something of that sorts. We live closer to the Clinton end of the trail. Any thoughts?