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KANSAS CITY EXTENSION
 -  + Does any one know if the trail has extended any further west towards KANSAS CITY?
Discussion started 05/03/2009 08:34 PM by GJ - 38 replies (last reply by Mark at 09/22/2018 06:22 PM)
GJ from KANSAS CITY on 05/03/2009 08:34 PM
Does any one know if the trail has extended any further west towards KANSAS CITY?

 
Trek on 05/04/2009 09:16 AM
Work to begin on new Katy Trail segment

ASSOCIATED PRESS

04/03/2009



PLEASANT HILL, Mo. - Gov. Jay Nixon says work will begin this month on linking the Kansas City area to the Katy Trail that stretches across the state.



Nixon was in Pleasant Hill on Friday at what is planned to be the western-most trail head of the trail. The 46-miles segment will link the area to Windsor, where the trail now passes.



Once completed, hikers and bicyclists will be able to use the trail from Pleasant Hill to St. Charles in St. Louis.



The work is being paid for with $18 million from a settlement the state reached with AmerenUE following the collapse of the Taum Sauk reservoir. Nixon negotiated the settlement while he was attorney general.



- posted 4/3/2009 3:00:47 PM



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I hoped I was going to be first with the good news! Oh well. Here is link to press release.



http://governor.mo.gov/newsroom/2009/Katy_Trail_to_be_connected_to_Kansas_City

- posted 4/3/2009 3:20:35 PM by ka3751 , saint louis


 
VERNON from La tour, Missouri on 05/13/2009 12:34 PM
Please keep me up-dated, about the new "EXTENSION", from Pleaseant Hill, Mo., to Windsor, Mo.....Thank You...



VERNON HARRISON

LA TOUR, Missouri


 
kim from independence on 05/13/2009 09:18 PM
We took a ride down to Pleasant Hill last weekend to check out the beginning of the extension (they are starting it here and joining up in Windsor). They are definitely getting started and had equipment there. Beginning to clear the area. I noticed that, although this is supposed to be a "Rails and Trails" with the trail next to the existing track, there was no evidence of RR tracks at this point. I imagine that when they start working to build trail alongside tracks, it will slow things down. I was just happy to see it beginning though!

 
Jules from Lake St. Louis on 05/14/2009 08:25 AM
Are the tracks still in use? Why are they building a trail next to the existing track?

 
GTO from St Charles on 08/31/2009 09:40 AM
When will the Pleasant Hill trail extension open?

 
stevo from saint louis, mo on 08/31/2009 10:27 AM
Don’t hold your breadth. Last we heard was that 5 miles would be completed FROM Pleasant Hill in “12 to 18 months”. Assuming they start from Pleasant Hill and head towards Windsor, it is another 35 miles to the Katy in Windsor.



http://www.dnr.mo.gov/newsrel/nr09_150.htm



And remember this is a “rails with trails”, which will be a lot more difficult than if they could utilize the old railbed and infrastructure that is already in place.



In regards to the rail line, my understanding is that the existing Rock Island Rail line is currently inactive for much if not all of the route, but AmerenUE wanted to keep intact in case they wanted to utilize in the future.


 
kim from independence, mo on 08/31/2009 09:34 PM
When we checked a couple of months ago, they had started the Pleasant Hill end, but I do mean started. They had broken ground and there was some machinery sitting around. There are no tracks at this point, so I'm assuming it will join up with tracks further on down the line. As Stevo said, don't hold your breath. Since they are working west to east, you can be sure that they won't open any of it until a large portion is completed, and it will probably be a few years before it connects at Windsor.

 
Annette Argyle from Gallatin, MO on 12/20/2010 05:21 AM
Just wondering what stage the extension to Kansas City the trail is in . . .it should be almost completed by now. Are there maps that detail where the trail ends?

 
Anonymous on 12/20/2010 07:43 PM
Whats the source of your information that it should be done by now? Perhaps they could shed some light for you.

 
ab3 from pleasant hill on 07/04/2011 01:45 PM
there is now about 1.5 miles which can be riden and more still under construction

 
Rob from Olathe KS on 07/06/2011 11:02 AM
So they've only completed 1.5 miles of the trail in 2 years? Wow, at this rate it'll take about 30.6 years to link up that 46 miles. Wow, money not well spent. It shouldn't take that long. Guess I'll plan my hike from Clinton onward.

 
KB from Lee's Summit on 09/27/2011 03:28 PM
I was told from a fairly reliable source that it was to open this year but it appears they are no longer working on the trail. When I went to Pleasant Hill, I had to drive Several miles south of the city just to find the trail with a small section completed and could not find anything around Windsor. SAD!!!

 
greg from raytown,mo on 10/23/2011 06:38 PM
where did the money go that was to be used for this part of the trail and why is it not being worked on?

 
Darrell from Jefferson City, MO. on 10/24/2011 03:55 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/06/19/2961795/katy-trail-getting-closer-to-kc.html

 
Brad P. from Pea Ridge on 10/24/2011 12:41 PM
I remember when the Rock Island was running close to my parent's house in Versailles. One exciting thing that happened was that my sister almost stepped on a scorpion that the authorities determined hopped a ride on the train as they aren't native. There are some fantastic elevated trestles between there and Cole Camp.

Ok, so we know the line will be abandoned between Pleasant Hill and Windsor, but I wonder if they'll let go the section between Windsor and Eldon where there's still the Rock Island park?

 
Brent Hugh from Raytown on 11/02/2011 02:55 PM
Greg, the trail is being worked on. Some segments are complete. The state has railbanked about five miles nearest Pleasant Grove and started work there. We are likely to hear an announcement about the remaining miles some time soon.

The funds are all still in place and reserved for this projects. It is likely to turn out even better than we had previously anticipated.

 
Brent Hugh from Raytown on 11/02/2011 02:56 PM
Also I should add, the Pleasant Hill has opened over a mile of trail that they own/built. The vision for now is to start at Pleasant Hill and build outwards towards Windsor. Pleasant Hill is pretty excited about getting this connection done.

 
Adie from Pleasant Hill on 01/13/2012 11:42 PM
Biking the Katy Trail is a new adventure for me, so I am excited to get started this spring. Those venturing to this portion of the trail should come with mace or a reliable mode of defence. There have been sightings of a mountain lion in the Katy Trail area.

 
Darrell from Jefferson City, MO. on 01/14/2012 05:59 AM
Adie, this from the Missouri Department of Conservation; “The risk of mountain lion attack on people in Missouri is very, very small to almost non-existent.” http://mdc4.mdc.mo.gov/Documents/160.pdf

But thanks for the heads-up!

 
Linda from Camdenton,MO on 03/26/2012 12:33 PM
HOW IS THIS PROGRESSING???WHO DO WE CALL TO CHECK AND VERIFY WHAT'S GOING ON?

 
KB from Lee's Summit on 04/02/2012 03:27 PM
I went down to Pleasant Hill and pulled into the new parking lot about a mile or two south and east of Pleasant Hill. The sign still says it is closed but it appears to be ready to go. There has been no visible work done on the trail since I went there late summer but it appears only a couple of miles open. I am not holding my breath!

 
Vicki from Kansas City on 08/11/2014 08:37 AM
Is there any current news on the extension project? I read that the trail was going to be using the rail bed rather than running alongside the rails, which will be easier, cheaper and FASTER, but nothing since. Surely something must have happened since then? Anybody know?

 
Anonoh on 08/14/2014 03:51 AM
I believe the land acquisition was tied to a political vote for another issue just recently in MO? Feds or Ameren or some group owned the land? The trail advocacy group sent out a posting to contact local political officials with a write in campaign I believe?

 
MidSouth from Rogersville, MO on 08/14/2014 08:14 AM
Actually a lot depends on if Ameren sells the line for salvage or works with the state, dnr, or other group to develop the trail. You can sign the petition here: http://mobikefed.dreamhosters.com/RockIslandTrailPetition

 
Chad on 09/09/2014 08:49 PM
Kansas City Star ran an article about the trail additions today.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article2046570.html

 
Trail Rider on 01/10/2015 04:16 PM
Can someone get an accurate report or overall plan from the Missouri DNR when sections of the Rock Island Trail State Park will be opened? There should be some public involvement with the project and not just constant updates coming soon. They are obviously working hard along the trail with all of the grading and rail salvage work, but why is it so hard for them to post updates or schedules?

 
Larry from Lone Jack on 05/06/2015 04:53 PM
This would be a good project for you, Trail Rider.

 
Kim from Windsor on 11/18/2015 04:17 PM
There are a couple of Facebook pages with updates on the Rock Island Pleasant Hill to Windsor section. Missouri Rock Island Trail, Inc. (MORIT) and The Rock Island Trail at Windsor. Some sections such as Windsor to Bowen, and others, have top layer down and are usable. Parks expects people to hike and ride the trail as it becomes usable. Crews are actively working and completion is said to be by late 2016.

 
commuterDude from Olathe, KS on 01/17/2016 01:21 PM
On the comment, "Users are expected to use the trail as sections become available" (paraphrased), I would LOVE to, but, as I continue northwest toward KC, how am I able to tell if a section is "ready", as this can be subjective. I absolutely do NOT want to trespass, but, I love the thought of exploring and reaching further as the development continues. Is all of the land/right-of-way now under "parks department" control and ownership, ready-or-not? It will be a few years, but, I can't wait to basically hike/ride from St. Charles to the Colorado border on 90% trail, using the Katy and the Flint Hills Nature Trail in KS.

 
Justin Harper from Kingsville on 11/10/2016 05:50 PM
They have made much progress this year. The trail has been cleared back with heavy equipment for most of the entire length. Now they are getting the bridges finished. I just walked a section of it tonight where it crosses T HWY about 5 miles South of Kingsville. Much of the trail bow has crushed gravel but there are some parts that still have the original rail bed gravel. They have even put up the trail crossing signs on the HWY but that spot is very dangerous. There is a small hill just to the North so it is a blind crossing.

 
Cheryl from Basehor, Ks on 12/13/2016 10:12 AM
Where can I get an updated map of the new KC extension? Where does it start? Where do I park? Are the maps for sale on this site updated? I don't see the update online.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 12/13/2016 10:44 AM
Cheryl, the printed maps that we sell on BikeKatyTrail.com only include the Katy Trail at this point. And as far as I know, MO DNR does not yet have printed maps with the Rock Island Trail.However, there is an online map showing the Rock Island route at http://www.bikerockisland.com/rock-island-trail-map.aspx. There's a checkbox just above the map that you can check to add the Katy Trail onto the map.Right now the trail goes as far as Pleasant Hill. Honestly I do not know the exact trailhead locations yet, but it's probably not hard to find if you go there. Worst case, you can probably find the trail very easily and just park on the street nearby.Happy trails.

 
BikerBoy from Edwardsville, IL on 12/13/2016 04:33 PM
Well, now it's officially called a "spur" to the Katy Trail. I am not sure I like this renaming.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article120656018.html

 
Ray (webmaster) on 12/13/2016 04:58 PM
Wow, I'm just as surprised by the renaming as the Pleasant Hill people were.

I may need to do a little website reconfiguring now. Man, I really don't want to cram both trails into that map at the top of the webpage. :-)

Oh well, just happy to have the new trail being added!

 
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 12/19/2016 09:42 AM
I'll always call it the "Rock".

 
Anonymous on 12/19/2016 04:45 PM
Makes no sense to me. I'll always refer to it as "The Rock Island Trail".

 
jennifer brooks from Raytown on 09/22/2018 06:22 AM
It's been a few years concerning this ... When is this going to happen?...

 
Mark from Lee's Summit on 09/22/2018 06:22 PM
There are 6 different trail segments that have to be designed, funded, and then built. It looks like 1,2, and 6 have been approved with enough funding that they should be built on schedule (if they don't have problems buying some new right of way where the trail turns away from the railroad easement). Sections 3, 4, and 5 are not going to be easy so people will have to keep working hard to get them funded. Look at the map link below and you can see the plan:
http://www.marc2.org/tr_cfp/UploadedFiles/865_ProjID-180323%20Greenwood%20Connector%20Map.pdf



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Kim's Cabins
 -  + On Monday, 9/17, I rode the Rock Island Trail from Pleasant Hill to Winsdor. I stayed at Kim's Cabins in Winsdor. If you are riding one of the trails and need a place to stay, I highly recommend the...
Discussion started 09/21/2018 02:43 PM by Vickie - 1 reply (last reply by Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins at 09/21/2018 03:04 PM)
Vickie from Rogersville on 09/21/2018 02:43 PM
On Monday, 9/17, I rode the Rock Island Trail from Pleasant Hill to Winsdor. I stayed at Kim's Cabins in Winsdor. If you are riding one of the trails and need a place to stay, I highly recommend the cabins. Kim was great and helpful.

 
Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins from Windsor on 09/21/2018 03:04 PM
Thanks and so great to have you visit Vickie! Love that folks are finding the cabins so convenient being at the crossroads of the Katy and Rock Island


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 -  + If you all are interested we documented our trip here https://matthewvalenti24.wordpress.com/2018/09/21/katy-trail-a-brothers-journey/. It has where we stayed, ate, and hung out. I included a packing ...
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Matt Valenti from Lake St. Louis on 09/21/2018 08:54 AM
If you all are interested we documented our trip here https://matthewvalenti24.wordpress.com/2018/09/21/katy-trail-a-brothers-journey/. It has where we stayed, ate, and hung out. I included a packing list and a schedule too. Let me know what you think.


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Katy Trail Shuttle Service in St Charles
 -  + DO NOT CALL THE NUMBER ABOVE. THEY DO NOT EXIST and it is someone's personal phone # now.
Discussion started 07/27/2011 03:19 AM by Brian - 4 replies (last reply by Brian at 09/20/2018 07:12 PM)
Brian from Saint Charles on 07/27/2011 03:19 AM
DO NOT CALL THE NUMBER ABOVE. THEY DO NOT EXIST and it is someone's personal phone # now.

 
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 07/27/2011 12:10 PM
Brian, I'm sure Ray would be happy to check it out and update the listing but it would helpful if you specified what number above you are talking about.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 07/27/2011 12:41 PM
Yes, I tracked this down and cleared it out. Brian will not be getting calls from shuttle seekers any more (he may have missed a great business opportunity!).

The old phone # was on a page that did not have links to it any more, but apparently people were still getting there from search engines.

 
Brian from Saint Charles on 07/28/2011 10:16 AM
I thought about it, but do not own a van or anything similar. Thank you for finaly removing it.

 
Brian on 09/20/2018 07:12 PM
7 years later... Still get the occasional Katy Trail phone call. Usually older sounding women who claim to be getting my number from a travel guide. Once every few months is tolerable. Way better than every day. Thanks again Ray


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Fall foliage?
 -  + We have a trip planned to ride part of the Katy Trail starting on October 7(weather permitting). We plan tp ride from Jefferson City to St Charles and back. Wondering how the timing is for some color...
Discussion started 09/18/2018 06:45 PM by Gary - 1 reply (last reply by anonymous at 09/18/2018 07:08 PM)
Gary from Prague, Oklahoma on 09/18/2018 06:45 PM
We have a trip planned to ride part of the Katy Trail starting on October 7(weather permitting). We plan tp ride from Jefferson City to St Charles and back. Wondering how the timing is for some colorful foliage.

 
Anonymous on 09/18/2018 07:08 PM
There is a link on the home page: What's Going On

FALL on the Katy Trail

October 7 will probably be minimal at best. Usually mid October or later is peak.


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Trailhead in Lee' Summit
 -  + I am looking for a trailhead in Lee's Summit. Have found the trail and the Vale tunnel, just have not followed it to the end yet. Looking for someone in the know.
Discussion started 08/26/2018 08:32 PM by Glenn - 6 replies (last reply by Matt at 09/18/2018 03:51 PM)
Glenn from Independence on 08/26/2018 08:32 PM
I am looking for a trailhead in Lee's Summit. Have found the trail and the Vale tunnel, just have not followed it to the end yet. Looking for someone in the know.

 
Mark from Lee's Summit on 08/26/2018 10:42 PM
The southern trail segment from Jefferson to almost Noland and 350 is still officially under construction, but people have been using parts of the trail since July. The only good trailhead is at Harris Park off of Pryor. Any trailhead to the north probably won't get completed until next year when they start construction from 350 to the Stadium Complex. If you want to visualize where the trail is going, then look at this youtube video cleip that Jackson County has posted on their website: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4Ot9tFozJs ...Raytown will have a major trailhead that will be built during the next phase.

 
Glenn from Independence on 08/27/2018 08:54 AM
Thanks!

 
Mark from Lee's Summit on 08/27/2018 09:35 AM
I meant to say Hartman Park off of Pryor (just south of 3rd Street).

 
Josh from Raymore on 08/28/2018 02:09 PM
Awesome video!!! I tracked the flight of the plane on google maps to have an idea of exactly where the trail will be headed. You can follow the treeline and old rail line on satellite version using google maps. Do you know how far the trail goes starting at the Hartman Park trailhead? I drove by it and can see progress, didnt know if anyone had ridden it to know how much trail is actually rideable right now. Thanks again for sharing the video.

 
Paul Toigo from Kansas City MO on 08/31/2018 05:27 AM
Please stay off this section of the trail until it opens sometime this fall. It is posted as "No trespassing".

 
Matt from Lees Summit on 09/18/2018 03:51 PM
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White Wolf Inn special weekday rate
 -  + White Wolf Inn special weekday rate of $75 per night for two people — Sunday thru Thursday. Inn is at mile marker 105 just .7 miles on highway P. Visit us atwww.whitewolfinnllc.com
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Mark from Rhineland, mo. on 09/17/2018 06:21 PM
White Wolf Inn special weekday rate of $75 per night for two people — Sunday thru Thursday. Inn is at mile marker 105 just .7 miles on highway P. Visit us at
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Hartsburg - 35th on MAIN
 -  + 35th on MAIN is now open and running!!We serve lunch and dinner Wednesday thru Sunday and breakfast on Saturday and Sunday mornings.If you are passing thru or staying at one of the awesome inn's, come...
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Jim Nilges from Hartsburg on 09/13/2018 10:12 AM
35th on MAIN is now open and running!!

We serve lunch and dinner Wednesday thru Sunday and breakfast on Saturday and Sunday mornings.

If you are passing thru or staying at one of the awesome inn's, come by for some great American and Latin deliciousness.

See menus and find out more here:
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Eber Haus Inn Hartsburg from Hartsburg on 09/13/2018 10:22 AM
and btw...the food is awesome!

 
Globe Hotel Bed and Breakfast from Hartsburg on 09/13/2018 02:45 PM
Mark and Leaia at the Globe Hotel Bed and Breakfast are thrilled to have 35th on Main in Hartsburg!

 
JJ Gang from Kearney MO on 09/13/2018 03:44 PM
This sounds good but we will be passing through on a Tuesday. Are there other places to eat in Hartsburg?

 
Allen from Shawnee on 09/15/2018 03:15 PM
My recollection is the bar in town serves small sized pizza that is frozen then microwaved. There are restaurants in Jefferson City, there is a restaurant at the airport in North Jefferson that closes at 2 pm. Coopers landing just west of Hartsburg has microwave able stuff and sometimes they have a pot of something cooked up, they also have a Thai restaurant some days and hours.

Have a good trip
Allen

 
Cathy from Pittsburgh, PA on 09/16/2018 08:07 AM
There used to be a restaurant at the golf course by the North Jefferson City trailhead that got good reviews. I am not sure if it is still operating.

I am so glad to hear Hartsburg has another restaurant to fill the void left by Dottie's. And thank you Dottie for carrying the torch for as long as you did. I loved your food and friendship.

 
Jodygofast from Columbia MO on 09/16/2018 04:31 PM
The food here is awesome. We have visited on our bikes twice already and will be making many more trips.

 
Anonymous on 09/17/2018 04:03 PM
So sad that we will be passing through on a Tuesday :(


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Dormitory at School House B + B in Rocheport
 -  + We really enjoyed our stay At the Dormitory at School House B&B, we have been staying there since 2010. Has all the basic needs we like. Very clean and convent to the downtown and shops. If you come t...
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We really enjoyed our stay At the Dormitory at School House B&B, we have been staying there since 2010. Has all the basic needs we like. Very clean and convent to the downtown and shops. If you come to ride the Katy trail like we do you will be impressed that there is a bike shed to keep your bike in and even basic repair and air needs.


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Parking at Augusta
 -  + Is overnight multi-day parking allowed at the Augusta trailhead? And if so, is it a safe location?
Discussion started 09/14/2018 01:46 PM - 1 reply (last reply by anonymous at 09/15/2018 01:05 PM)
Anonymous on 09/14/2018 01:46 PM
Is overnight multi-day parking allowed at the Augusta trailhead? And if so, is it a safe location?

 
Anonymous on 09/15/2018 01:05 PM
Yes you can park at the trailhead to ride the trail. That's what it's for. It's been a few years ago since we've parked there, but we had no issue when we did. I don't recall any posts here indicating that it was not a safe location.

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