RV camping?
- + We will be traveling all year in our 34' fifth wheel camper. We want to bike the Rock Island Spur Trail from Windsor to Pleasant Hill. Which campgrounds accommodate RVs, have shower house and restro...
Discussion started 01/06/2019 03:33 PM by Kris - 4 replies (last reply by StuartH at 02/07/2019 03:42 PM)Kris from Hot Springs, AR on 01/06/2019 03:33 PM
We will be traveling all year in our 34' fifth wheel camper. We want to bike the Rock Island Spur Trail from Windsor to Pleasant Hill. Which campgrounds accommodate RVs, have shower house and restrooms? THX
Allen from Shawnee,Ks on 01/13/2019 12:31 PM
There may be others but I am aware of 2. In Pleasant Hill, the city lake about 3 miles north of town. In Windsor Farrington Park, I believe this is the city park. They both have hookups and a shower house.
Allen
Rick Fosnow from Windsor on 02/06/2019 10:33 PM
I am the new owner of curses Cabooses in Windsor and Farrington Park has a shower house at the trailer park hookups
Gary Irwin from Near Tebbetts on 02/07/2019 02:23 PM
Curses Caboose?
Don’t you just love autocorrect Rick. ;-)
StuartH from Lee’s Summit on 02/07/2019 03:42 PM
My brother and I were cursing long ride on the gravel road from the KATY to the cabooses.
WINTER RIDING
- + I’m thinking of driving down from Omaha and do some winter riding. What is the condition of the trail in February as a general rule.
Discussion started 01/26/2019 12:01 PM by Chuck Cooper - 1 reply (last reply by Mr. Bump at 02/04/2019 10:00 PM)Chuck Cooper from Omaha on 01/26/2019 12:01 PM
I’m thinking of driving down from Omaha and do some winter riding. What is the condition of the trail in February as a general rule.
Mr. Bump from Hannibal on 02/04/2019 10:00 PM
The trail is maintained year round. When the crushed limestone surface is wet, it gets mushy, increasing rolling resistance. The trick is finding places open in the off season for food. We have done a few winter tours, and enjoyed every day. Check out my posts.
Coopers Landing sold
- + I just saw that Coopers Landing has been sold and will have a new owner. Cooper has helped me out on more than one occasion. Sad to see him sell the place, but sounds like the new owner has plans f...
Discussion started 01/31/2019 07:43 PM by Sharon E - 1 reply (last reply by anonymous at 02/01/2019 09:36 AM)Sharon E from Kansas City on 01/31/2019 07:43 PM
I just saw that Coopers Landing has been sold and will have a new owner. Cooper has helped me out on more than one occasion. Sad to see him sell the place, but sounds like the new owner has plans for the place that will keep it going. Hope they keep the Thai place open- love that place!
https://www.columbiamissourian.com/news/local/former-blue-note-owner-richard-king-set-to-buy-popular/article_4a59318a-24d2-11e9-826f-43daafe53337.html
Anonymous on 02/01/2019 09:36 AM
From reading the article, the new owners want to clean the place up....tidy up a bit. That's a good idea. It never looked very inviting to us. More of an eyesore than anything. Only stopped there once and found more rudeness than helpfulness. Maybe it just wasn't my thing.
New owners are wanting to be bike friendly and seem to realize the draw from the Katy. Thanks to them for that. Am always willing to support local businesses when they seem to appreciate my $$.
Well wishes to the new owners.
ATV usage Rock Island Trail
- + The trail should be available for all Missourians. I would be willing to have specified days for ATV's and horses or specified sections of the trail for these special uses. We all pay taxes not just p...
Discussion started 12/22/2016 06:16 PM by Quantrill - 22 replies (last reply by Doug at 01/30/2019 09:09 PM)Quantrill from Holden on 12/22/2016 06:16 PM
The trail should be available for all Missourians. I would be willing to have specified days for ATV's and horses or specified sections of the trail for these special uses. We all pay taxes not just people that ride bikes. On the Rock Island Trail from Windsor to Pleasant Hill I guarantee you no one will be riding a bike. Those that live in the area have horses or ATV's. By not allowing ATV's even on specified days you would be discriminating toward those who want to use the path, paid for by their taxes for horse back riding and ATV's. For all you bleeding hearts an ATV will not tear up a gravel road. Many folks ride their ATV's and Gators into town in these areas and I haven't seen a pothole caused by one yet. Don't worry about me having a flat or running out of gas on my ATV. I'm an old Boy Scout and I'll come prepared and I won't worry about you racking yourself on your bike or having a heat stroke. But, if you do I'll be glad to come pick you up on my 4-wheeler.
rob from southcentral mo on 12/22/2016 06:27 PM
You guarantee that no one will be riding a bike from Windsor to Pleasant Hill? I'll take that bet!
Anonymous on 12/22/2016 08:11 PM
Any other bets that you'd like to loose money on Quantril? It's a good thing you were a Boy Scout, you'll be prepared to fork over the cash and will be friendly, courteous and kind while you do.
Scott from Sw mo on 12/23/2016 07:12 AM
LOL!!
Your a nutter!
George H. on 12/23/2016 05:10 PM
I believe the Rock Island trail will have the same use as the Katy Trail since it will be managed by DNR. Certain sections allow horses but not sure about ATV use.
I would imagine before the trail gets the final limestone chad surface like the KT there will be many ATVs on it and after too. Both are right there should be multiple uses for the trail without tearing it up.
Anonymous on 12/24/2016 12:05 AM
My bet is that the Rock Island will have even more use than the western end of the KATY because of its proximity to Kansas City. For pete's sake - there are 1000s of bike riders in the metro KC area that have been dying for this trail to make its way north to give them more access. Wait until April - May - June and tell me there is no one riding it. Hogwash.
Jon from N Texas on 12/24/2016 04:52 PM
Seems to me, the original poster is most likely trolling, trying to provoke responses. Why post this sort of message on a "Bike" KATY Trail forum?
Be it the KATY, the RIT, or an urban multi-use path, restrictions on motorized access are not unusual. Some trails on public lands in Missouri are open to ATV use. Many trails are closed to cyclists. This is not discrimination. It is designated use.
There is no restriction on people accessing the trail, only their means of access. The argument that paying taxes should grant permission to do as you please on public lands is specious. For example, I cannot ride a skateboard through the public library. I cannot ride a mountain bike in designated Wilderness Areas. I cannot repel off Mount Rushmore. Such activities are not consistent with those facilities.
Likewise, mixed motorized and non-motorized use of the KATY and RIT would be inconsistent with their nature and designated purpose.
The arguments of discrimination and tax-payer rights fall short in making the case for opening these trails to ATV use.
Jon
Anonymous on 12/25/2016 12:12 AM
Well stated Jon!
Rock Island Resident from Holden MO on 12/31/2016 05:36 PM
I live on the Rock Island. Walked my bike through my pasture today and got on the trail to ride for an hour and a half earlier today. The trail goes right through the middle of our farm and I would NEVER,EVER want to see or hear ANY kind of ATV on the trail right in my back yard!!!!! Bike tracks were all over the stretch that I used and the designated use for bikes and horses made for a very pleasant and peaceful ride!!!!
By the way Quantrill, I homeschooled my five children, and still paid my school taxes!!!
Teresa from Kearney mo. on 01/03/2017 06:55 PM
Can someone tell me how to find the trail head in Plesant Hill please? From the North of the River area.
Thanks!
EB from Greenwood on 01/03/2017 06:59 PM
291 South from Lee's Summit. West on 58 highway and the trail head is on the south side next to the Cass County Fair grounds.
Anonymous on 05/26/2018 07:44 PM
The KATY trail is for public use. No one is allowed to us Mt Rushmore.
Matt from Lees Summit on 06/04/2018 04:46 AM
No ATVs, please. I ride my bike on the RIT all the time. Rode P-Hill to Sedalia two weeks ago, the heat index was well into the 90's, no problem.
Ron from Windsor on 06/04/2018 08:14 PM
Taxes also pay for sidewalks, schools, and parks. Don't see any ATV's there do we?
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
-George Carlin
Cathy from Pittsburgh, PA on 06/04/2018 09:38 PM
Thanks for sharing that quote Ron. That explains a lot.
Debbie from Lincoln, Ne on 06/05/2018 08:37 AM
I ride a trike and my biggest pet peeve of the Katy Trail(rode the entire length), was the ATV and possibly some tractor tire ruts. It is impossible with three different tires on a trike to avoid these ruts. It was bone jarring. I wouldn't mind sharing if the entire trail became asphalt but I think that will never happen due to expenditure. Long live the Katy Trl!
Stickdaddy on 01/09/2019 10:37 AM
I agree with Quantrill, I think we all have a right to use the trail, i responsibly ride 1500 miles a year on gravel roads exploring Mo on a street legal Honda dirtbike and would love to add some sections of these trails to my route. I don't think its a lot to ask to share. I am sure some folks are offended by my motorcycle but I am equally offended by your bicycle as well. So be it. Any motorcycle guys want to schedule a take back of what is equally ours sign me up.
Anonymous on 01/09/2019 01:15 PM
We'll build a wall.
Shutdown the DNR until you pay for it!
Doug on 01/09/2019 04:40 PM
Everyone DOES have the right to use the Katy Tail. Just the same as everyone has a right to use the town swimming pool. Just not on a jet ski or other motorized vehicle.
Anonymous from Hartsburg, MO on 01/13/2019 02:34 PM
Please NO ATVs on either trail. The riders are so low and bothersome and they cheapen everything they touch. Isn't there a quarry somewhere they can destroy? Lets have bikers only.
Stickdaddy from Pacific on 01/30/2019 09:03 AM
"Low and Bothersome" I guess you think your better than others because you ride a bike or hike, were equal don't you know that. I am a respectful motorcycle rider to both humans and the environment and don't tear up anything when I come through I just want to enjoy a day of riding and exploring without having to trailer a bike for 2 hour's each way. When a area gets used for ATVS it does get carved on and I get that, I just would like to see a limited window for us guy's to enjoy what we pay for.
Steve from Kearney mo on 01/30/2019 02:12 PM
Stickdaddy, you are crying to the wrong people. What are you trying to get here? Nothing we say can help you in any way. Have you called your state rep? State parks are governed by state statute not this forum...
Doug from Bluffton on 01/30/2019 09:09 PM
Stick according to Dept. Of Transportation there are 66338 miles of paved roads in Missouri not counting interstates and hundreds of miles of gravel roads in every county. Why do you have to trailer your street legal bike for two hours to reach them? Go ride all the roads you are allowed on and quit griping about what you can't ride on. Like Steve said "You are crying to the wrong people"
Rivers Edge RV Park & Campground in Portland
- + I’m planning a bike trip during spring break (end of March) with a 8 & 6 years old kids. Will the campground be open then? Thanks in advance
Discussion started 01/28/2019 12:16 PM by JMB - 0 repliesJMB from Ok on 01/28/2019 12:16 PM
I’m planning a bike trip during spring break (end of March) with a 8 & 6 years old kids. Will the campground be open then? Thanks in advance
2019 Katy Trail Ride
- + The web site is up for the 2019 Katy Trail Ride in June.https://mostateparks.com/2019ktride
Discussion started 01/24/2019 11:39 AM by Jerry Whittle - 3 replies (last reply by Doug at 01/26/2019 01:22 PM)Jerry Whittle from Belleville Illinois on 01/24/2019 11:39 AM
The web site is up for the 2019 Katy Trail Ride in June.
https://mostateparks.com/2019ktride
Padre from St. Charles on 01/24/2019 02:26 PM
The new logo looks great! We're looking forward to supporting another great group of riders with our tent service! See you in June.
Chuck Cooper from Omaha on 01/26/2019 11:59 AM
I need to ride and thinking if the Katy is ok I’d drive down to Sadalia and get some rides in for a few days. What is the condition of the trail this time of year. Thanks for the replies.
Doug from Bluffton on 01/26/2019 01:22 PM
For the most part it is empty froze solid and clear but that can change with the weather. Stores and services in towns are open. Some of the B&Bs and small town services closed or with short hours for the winter. Eagles are easy to see at least in this area. Call ahead for lodging but if you ride 40 or more miles a day you should not have trouble finding things open that you'll need.
Katy-Rock Junction in Windsor
- + Very Clean place, stayed here in November and reallly enjoyed having bikes safely locked up and running water with very clean facilities. Would definitely go back next time on the trail!
Discussion started 11/03/2018 10:33 AM by Jenny - 1 reply (last reply by Dale Eckhoff at 01/24/2019 10:54 PM)Jenny from Lee’s Summit on 11/03/2018 10:33 AM
Very Clean place, stayed here in November and reallly enjoyed having bikes safely locked up and running water with very clean facilities. Would definitely go back next time on the trail!
Dale Eckhoff from Windsor on 01/24/2019 10:54 PM
Thanks for choosing Katy-Rock Junction for your stay!
Trail Question
- + Hey everyone! I'm planning to ride some of the trail this Summer. I'll be driving from Chicago and am curious if anyone has have any opinion/advice on the best place to pick up the trail? Thanks! Deb
Discussion started 12/26/2018 03:56 PM by Quadzilla - 11 replies (last reply by Padre at 01/24/2019 02:44 PM)Quadzilla from Chicago on 12/26/2018 03:56 PM
Hey everyone! I'm planning to ride some of the trail this Summer. I'll be driving from Chicago and am curious if anyone has have any opinion/advice on the best place to pick up the trail? Thanks! Deb
Anonymous on 12/26/2018 09:20 PM
St. Charles.
Hank on 12/27/2018 07:46 AM
I would start in St. Charles, ride west to Augusta and then cross the Missouri River into Washington for night one. Approximately 35 miles. Day 2 head to Hermann, approximately 30 miles, stay the night. Day 3 ride back to St. Charles, 60 miles from Hermann.
Quadzilla from Chicago on 12/27/2018 09:05 AM
Great! Thanks for the info!
Jerry Whittle from Belleville Illinois on 12/27/2018 11:09 AM
If you would like to do a supported tour in June, I highly recommend the Katy Trail ride put on by the Missouri Department of Natural Resources. Below is a link to the 2017 ride which should be very similar to 2019. Basically you would park in St. Charles on the Sunday before then take a bus to the start of the trail in Clinton. 5 day ride back to St. Charles.
https://mostateparks.com/2017ktride
Anonymous on 12/27/2018 05:07 PM
I’d do a series of out and back rides. Rocheport area is a very popular section with massive limestone bluffs, the only tunnel on the trail, and some great river views. Quaint little town with nice B&B’s and a few nice restaurants.
Hermann area is also very popular. A very German culture with fantastic B&B’s, restaurants, and wineries. The trail from Hermann west also has limestone bluffs which make for a good ride to Bluffton.
Jefferson City to Hartsburg is a good ride. Jefferson City to Rocheport is a decent ride if you wanted to do a ride with an overnight stay and the return.
Use the mileage chart to help determine distances and locations that you are capable of riding to.
It’s an awesome trail that has a lot to offer. Plan ahead and enjoy!!
Anonymous on 12/28/2018 10:28 PM
Are riding the DNR ride again Jerry?
Jerry Whittle from BELLEVILLE on 12/29/2018 09:56 AM
Almost certainly going to ride it again. I'm even thinking about getting a new bike with fatter tires and disc brakes for it.
Quadzilla from Chicago on 01/08/2019 01:19 PM
Thanks for all of the info... If I don't round up another person to ride with me, is the trail safe for a woman to ride alone? I've done a bit of research, but wanted to ask folks who have ridden.
Beth from Topeka, Ks on 01/08/2019 04:33 PM
When are you planning to ride? I'm wanting to ride as well. Beth
Anonymous on 01/08/2019 09:18 PM
This question has been asked several times here and consistently the answer is that many women have ridden alone without issue. As always ride with confidence and be aware of your surroundings. Be prepared to take care of yourself, fix your own flat...don't make yourself reliant on others and at their mercy. Always a good thing to do when traveling away from home.
A bit odd as a Midwesterner....someone from Chicago asking if rural Missouri is safe. Happy trails!!
Padre from St. Charles on 01/24/2019 02:44 PM
What Jerry Whittle said. Also, if you follow the calendar for Trailnet (https://trailnet.org), they should be posting information about their organized ride at the end of June. This will be a two-day ride that incorporates a train ride from Kirkwood, MO to Hermann, and has an overnight stay at Sunflower Hill Farm, in Matson. Details are in the making, but it's sounding like a great two-day ride!