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Dutzow to Washington river bridge crossing
 -  + I am riding with my son in June and need to get from Dutzow to Washington. Is the bike path across the river bridge usable or will it be by mid June?
Discussion started 05/10/2019 07:57 AM by Woodchuck - 7 replies (last reply by Tyann at 01/13/2020 06:19 PM)
Woodchuck from knoxville on 05/10/2019 07:57 AM
I am riding with my son in June and need to get from Dutzow to Washington. Is the bike path across the river bridge usable or will it be by mid June?

 
Tyann (Katy Haus and Bank Haus) from Marthasville on 05/10/2019 08:23 AM
It is not open yet, and they have no set date on when it will be open. They have to finish removing the old bridge and piers from the river and repair the north side of the road connecting to the bike path before it will open. I have my doubts it will be done by mid June, but definitely keep checking on it.

 
Dave from Kirkwood on 05/10/2019 09:56 AM
There have been a couple topics related to the new bridge recently. FYI - although the separate bike/ped lane is not open yet, there is a WIDE shoulder on the bridge that can be used (next to the vehicle traffic). The only challenge that I saw (about a month ago) would be getting onto and off the bridge, given some construction work (shoulder disappearing near ends, so would need to wait for opening in traffic).


 
Hank on 05/11/2019 10:26 AM
Not sure how old your son is but at this point the ride between Dutzow and Washington is not great. The shoulders are not the best and the pavement narrows on the southbound approach to the bridge making it a little tricky. Once you are on the bridge it is fine but getting there is not the best.

 
Doug from Bluffton on 05/11/2019 03:16 PM
About half way from Dutzow to Augusta you can take Augusta Bottom Rd around to the right and come out on 47 just before the new bridge on 47. You can also call for a shuttle from a bike shop in Washington or you can stop at Dutzow trailhead and wait for someone in a pickup and offer cash in exchange for ride over the bridge. This last has worked well for friends and I several times.

 
Globe Hotel Bed and Breakfast from Hartsburg, MO on 05/12/2019 09:53 AM
Doug, We missed you at our Potluck this spring. Get in touch with us sometime. (573) 657- 4529 Mark & Leaia Clervi
Globe Hotel Bed and Breakfast, Hartsburg, MO

 
Will from Ottawa on 01/13/2020 06:04 PM
Hi, was wondering if anyone had updates on the bridge situation. Was planning on riding from Dutzow into Washington this Spring, if not too dangerous.

 
Tyann from Katy Haus and Bank Haus in Marthasville on 01/13/2020 06:19 PM
No progress on the bike path on the bridge opening yet. The water levels have been too high for any work to be done unfortunately.


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NEED info
 -  + Planning to ride the trail last week in April 2020 and have a few questions . First i've been reading about trail closings and bridges being closed. On sections that are closed due to flooding, constr...
Discussion started 01/11/2020 10:58 AM by Eddie S. - 2 replies (last reply by Bill in Houston at 01/13/2020 11:47 AM)
Eddie S. from Paris on 01/11/2020 10:58 AM
Planning to ride the trail last week in April 2020 and have a few questions . First i've been reading about trail closings and bridges being closed. On sections that are closed due to flooding, construction or what ever is the detour clearly marked. Second just how isolated are you? averaging 60 miles per day starting at Clinton are you able to find stores or services easily? I biked across Louisiana last summer with just a med. handlebar bag and a Camelbak.Looks like a solo trip so is a Late April a good time or would you recommend riding later in the year. Too many questions i know but any info at all would be greatly appreciated . You can email if youd like sikesp1961@hotmail.com with suggestions or advice . T

 
ArkyKenny on 01/11/2020 06:26 PM
1) The detours are minimal and well marked. 2) Late April is as good a time as any. Be prepared for Spring rains. 3) 60 miles a day is good. I recommend trips into Jeff City (another 10 miles), and Columbia (20 miles round trip on the spur from Hindman Junction). Also consider a trip into Herman. 3) Services on the trail in non-peak times and on Mon-Wed can be very limited, but you can always get food and shelter in the towns, convenience stores, restaurants, etc.

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 01/13/2020 11:47 AM
Further to what ArkyKenny said, if you ride 60 miles per day, you will ride through plenty of places to resupply. But, they won't fall exactly where you want. So you might have to stock up, and ride another 15 miles to where you spend the night.

"They" say that late April is the rainy season, so be ready for that.


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Mokane Lions Club Park in Mokane
 -  + Are there shower facilities?
Discussion started 01/09/2020 10:47 AM by DougT - 1 reply (last reply by Doug at 01/09/2020 09:08 PM)
DougT from Tulsa on 01/09/2020 10:47 AM
Are there shower facilities?

 
Doug from Bluffton on 01/09/2020 09:08 PM
There are not. The bunkhouse in Tebbetts does as well as Brownells camping in Portland, The Bluffton Barn and Steamboat Junction in Bluffton in season.


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Question about starting location
 -  + Hi All, We are planning a bi-family bike trip on the Katy Trail for this summer ( early June). This will be our third trip together - previously doing the GAP and C&O and last summer the Erie Canal ...
Discussion started 01/06/2020 07:13 PM by Margaret - 4 replies (last reply by Bill in Houston at 01/09/2020 12:51 PM)
Margaret from Amherst, OH on 01/06/2020 07:13 PM
Hi All, We are planning a bi-family bike trip on the Katy Trail for this summer ( early June). This will be our third trip together - previously doing the GAP and C&O and last summer the Erie Canal Trail. We want to make the trip a bit longer and I was thinking since one family may be flying into St Louis, of starting either in Harrisonville, which would mean we would ride to Clinton ( about 30 miles or so) but how is that route 7? The other option would be to start up at Pleasant Hill on the new Rock Island Spur and ride to Windsor- stay the night- then to Clinton- but I am having a hard time finding lodging near Pleasant Hill. Does anyone know what the road would be like from Harrisonville or of any lodging near Pleasant Hill for a group of about 13 riders? Thanks.

 
Margaret from Amherst, OH on 01/06/2020 07:25 PM
Oh I meant the family will be flying into Kansas City!

Margaret

 
Anonymous on 01/07/2020 03:37 PM
Margaret,
I live in Harrisonville and have done the trail three times. I'm pretty sure that I can answer all your questions. My email address is loriemb2811@gmail.com.

Lorie

 
Anonymous on 01/08/2020 10:19 AM
Answers on this open forum may benefit others who have similar questions.

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 01/09/2020 12:51 PM
Going to Columbia would add time and distance. It's supposed to be a cool place.

Hermann is also a bit of a side trip, and is also supposed to be fun.

If you aren't overnighting in Jeff City, at least ride over to Central Dairy and get ice cream. You get to ride the big spiral ramp and see the capitol up close. Plus, ice cream. :)

We skipped the winery side trips, but those also add time and distance.


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Prescription Glasses Found
 -  + Prescription glasses (Ralph Lauren) found in a Maui Jim zippered Case (with a soft fabric Hawaiian cover inside). They were left at the Lost and Found at Meriwether Cafe and Bike Shop in Rocheport. re...
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Cee Jaye Pecorak from Rocheport on 01/05/2020 06:22 PM
Prescription glasses (Ralph Lauren) found in a Maui Jim zippered Case (with a soft fabric Hawaiian cover inside). They were left at the Lost and Found at Meriwether Cafe and Bike Shop in Rocheport. respond if you want to claim them...


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Rocheport tunnel status?
 -  + I heard rumor that the tunnel was open. Any truth to that? I thought there was catastrophic damage and it was closed indefinitely. Anybody? Any news?
Discussion started 01/03/2020 11:02 PM by ArkyKenny - 3 replies (last reply by anonymous at 01/04/2020 07:33 PM)
ArkyKenny on 01/03/2020 11:02 PM
I heard rumor that the tunnel was open. Any truth to that? I thought there was catastrophic damage and it was closed indefinitely. Anybody? Any news?

 
Allen from Shawnee on 01/04/2020 08:24 AM
All reports I have read says it’s open. There is bridge across Salt creek a few miles west of the tunnel that is not passable and may be a while before it’s repaired. The recommended detour is on 40 hiway, however there is a gravel alternative if you don’t like road riding. Scroll down the forum a few posts there is a thread discussing this issue and the detours.

 
Allen from Shawnee on 01/04/2020 08:30 AM
The title of the thread is opening/ finished dates

 
Anonymous from Harrisburg, MO on 01/04/2020 07:33 PM
Hi! The tunnel is open and you can ride approximately 3 miles West to Salt Creek before having to turn around to head back to Rocheport. Being that close to the damage is much different than the view from the Hwy 40 bridge.


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Riding from West end to East end
 -  + My wife and I have done many of the US's best Rails to trails and are now planning a trip this summer to ride the Katy trail. Since we will be driving in from Michigan, we would like to park our car s...
Discussion started 12/30/2019 11:25 AM by WDK1965 - 7 replies (last reply by Allen at 01/04/2020 12:08 PM)
WDK1965 from Howell, MI on 12/30/2019 11:25 AM
My wife and I have done many of the US's best Rails to trails and are now planning a trip this summer to ride the Katy trail. Since we will be driving in from Michigan, we would like to park our car somewhere on the east end, and shuttle or ride the train to the west end, where we can then start biking. Can anyone help me understand the best way to navigate that?

I've looked at the Amtrak option, but it doesn't seem like it starts/end near the trail and doesn't give you the option to do the entire trail? Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

 
Jerry Whittle from Belleville Illinois on 12/30/2019 12:16 PM
If you don't mind doing a supported ride, I suggest the Katy Trail Ride 2020. The official details haven't been released yet, but should be similar to this one. Note that it was cancelled last year due to flooding. It may well start in St. Charles in 2020 which would be a East to West ride.

https://mostateparks.com/2019ktride

 
Jerry Whittle from Belleville Illinois on 12/30/2019 01:50 PM
I just noticed that the link above is actually for 2020. I bet that they change the 2019 to 2020 shortly.

Looks like it will be going from West to East which is what you are looking for.

 
Anonymous on 12/30/2019 04:31 PM
There are shuttle services that will take you to your location of choice. Also, some B&B’s offer shuttles. The Trip Planner will help you locate a shuttle company. I’d consider that if I wanted to ride the entire trail.

All that aside, I would reconsider the idea of riding the “entire trail.” For most riders the section between St Charles and Machens is hardly worth the effort and time spent to ride. It has little to offer other than bragging rights. The same has been said for the section between Clinton and Sedalia. There are other ways to spend time along the trail that better justify vacation dollars. The MKT trail to Columbia, wineries and the states oldest wine cellar in Hermann, Central Dairy and the state capital in Jefferson City, etc are noteworthy. Some folks like far remote areas but when traveling we prefer the highlights in favor of the mundane.

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 01/02/2020 03:22 PM
You can park at the Community Rec Center in Clinton. The trail starts a few hundred yards from there.

We liked the section from Clinton to Sedalia. But different people like different stuff.

There are a few shuttle services available. They can be expensive unless you are part of a group.

If I did it again, I would...
drive to Clinton
Ride to St Charles
Uber to Amtrak
Amtrak back to Sedalia
Ride back to Clinton

I agree with skipping St Charles to Machens.




 
Gman from Erie PA on 01/03/2020 07:01 AM
To WDK 1965 Any trail suggestions for Michigan. Particularly the Traverse City area

 
Hank on 01/04/2020 10:03 AM
I disagree rather strongly with not riding between Clinton and Sedalia. It is very enjoyable.

I would use a shuttle service, parking in St. Charles and then shuttling to Clinton. This is the simplest solution.

 
Allen from Shawnee on 01/04/2020 12:08 PM
Having done the whole trail multiple times, this is how I would do it. I would park my car at the Amtrak station in Kirkwood MO., they allow this, just tell them, (be sure to book space for your bikes well in advance, they only have 4 per train). Then take the train to Sedalia and ride back to St Charles. Then get an Uber or some ride back to my car in Kirkwood, then come back to get the bikes in St. Charles. You can ride from St Charles to Kirkwood but you would need to be comfortable with riding city streets. There are routes available on this site to get there. I feel getting an Uber to haul 2 bikes and luggage might be difficult.
I know everyone feels differently about the parts of the trail they like. This is just my opinion based on ease and cost of transportation, plus experience of riding the trail.

Whatever you do have a good trip and be sure to stop and smell the roses.


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New bridge near the Klondike boat launch is in place
 -  + The new bridge next to Klondike boat launch (around MM 64) is in place. The work on the bridge should be complete by the end of January 2020.
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Jerry Whittle from Belleville Illinois on 01/03/2020 12:54 PM
The new bridge next to Klondike boat launch (around MM 64) is in place. The work on the bridge should be complete by the end of January 2020.


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2020 Katy Trail Ride announced
 -  + https://mostateparks.com/2020ktride June 22-26. Sign-ups start on March 1st. Hopefully it won't flood this year and the trail is in good shape after all the destruction last year.
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Jerry Whittle from Belleville Illinois on 01/01/2020 05:52 PM
https://mostateparks.com/2020ktride

June 22-26. Sign-ups start on March 1st.

Hopefully it won't flood this year and the trail is in good shape after all the destruction last year.



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Looking for some info
 -  + Did a bunch of the Katy last year and this forum was extremely helpful. Does anyone know of a similar forum that would be useful in the Traverse City area of Michigan. Would like to check out some rai...
Discussion started 12/24/2019 08:59 AM by Gman - 1 reply (last reply by anonymous at 12/25/2019 09:04 PM)
Gman from Erie PA on 12/24/2019 08:59 AM
Did a bunch of the Katy last year and this forum was extremely helpful. Does anyone know of a similar forum that would be useful in the Traverse City area of Michigan. Would like to check out some rail trails in that area and would like more info than I can get from TrailLink

 
Anonymous on 12/25/2019 09:04 PM
Searching Traverse City rail trails yields several results. One of which had a forum.

There is a lot of information online although no websites that I found such as this.


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Running Katy Trail
 -  + I’ve decided to run the entire Katy Trail from east to west starting October 27 2019. I will actually start from Alton and run to Machens from there. The question is how is: are there gonna be any r...
Discussion started 10/09/2019 02:04 PM by Taitor - 14 replies (last reply by Taitor at 12/16/2019 05:21 PM)
Taitor from North Carolina on 10/09/2019 02:04 PM
I’ve decided to run the entire Katy Trail from east to west starting October 27 2019. I will actually start from Alton and run to Machens from there. The question is how is: are there gonna be any really bad spots that may not be actually listed or unlisted as closed? Any local knowledge would be great! Thanks and can’t wait to see some of you out on the trail! Shooting for about 50 miles per day.

 
Brian L. from Austin,Texas on 10/10/2019 09:32 AM
Check the “Flooding and Trail Closures” section at the top of the home page - there will be some helpful info on those links, hopefully.
I assume you are typically able to run 50 miles/day? If so, that seems pretty ambitious, considering the spotty trail conditions and reduced daylight hours at the end of October.
In any case, good luck & have fun!

 
Taitor from North Carolina on 10/10/2019 10:55 AM
The mileage shouldn’t be a problem because I will be running at least 12-14 hours per day/night. I guess I’m more worried about Alton to St Charles and if hwy 94 to st Charles is flooded also.

 
Jerry Whittle from Belleville Illinois on 10/11/2019 08:12 AM
Hwy 94 isn't flooded any longer. However Machens to St. Charles on the Katy could be a problem especially around MM 35. There are ways to bypass that part of the trail.

I don't know exactly when, but they do turn off the water at most trailheads later in the year.

 
Doug from Bluffton on 10/11/2019 09:33 AM
Are you aware that the trail is closed from sunset to sunrise?

 
Michael from Camdenton, Mo on 10/11/2019 01:19 PM
They shutdown everything November 1st.

 
Doug from Bluffton on 10/11/2019 01:55 PM
The water gets shut off then but the trail and outhouses are still open during daylight hours

 
Taitor from North Carolina on 10/17/2019 11:10 AM
Yes I am aware that the park is not open during nighttime. I will start at first light and run til dark every day. Thanks for all the info!

 
Taitor from North Carolina on 11/22/2019 09:32 AM
Finished the Katy trail and rock island spur in 6 days on foot! I had a wonderful time! You should be very proud to have this close by to use. The trail with the exception of the closures was immaculate and smooth. I really never had to look down to make sure the trail was smooth! What a great time!Next time I’m bringing a bike.??

 
Matt from Wentzville on 11/22/2019 10:40 AM
Fantastic accomplishment! Congratulations!!!

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 11/22/2019 03:50 PM
Amazing! Way to go! Is there anywhere to find a trip report?

 
Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins from Windsor on 11/23/2019 12:44 AM
Wow that's awesome! Would love if you'd post and some pics on our page The Rock Island Trail at Windsor. Congratulations!

 
Taitor from North Carolina on 11/29/2019 07:05 PM
I don’t have a report of the run. I did post each day with pictures on a Facebook page called Katy 2 KC 320 if you would like to look at that. ??

 
Astrid from San Francisco on 12/13/2019 08:20 PM
Hello Taitor,
I was wondering about your experience to run through the "closed" parts of the trail, like the ones listed in the MO State Park website.

MM 96.9 to MM 97.1, at Case and slightly west
MM 117 to MM 118, west of Portland

there seems no detour for these two, but the dates are quite old. I wonder how you ran through these two parts. I am going to ride on Wed (Dec 18) from west to east. Any trial condition update will be really appreciated. :)

 
Taitor from North Carolina on 12/16/2019 05:21 PM
In my experience the road closures with no recommended detour meant that you would have to get out on the highway or road near the trail. I did this a few times and It was quite easy to get back on the trail. Also at the trailheads where there was a sign reporting a closure someone would write in pencil or pen the easiest way to get back on so keep an eye on that. The only real major closure I saw was the one near Mokane and they had the gate so sealed up you couldn’t possibly get through. So I took the road around following the directions someone had left. I think once you get out there you’ll be fine like I was.! Have fun and stay warm!!

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