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Polly's Perch (Pilot Grove)
 -  + Polly's is a little piece of heaven. A very nice lady who runs a lovely bed and breakfast a stone's throw from the Katy Trail. She will make you a breakfast fit for a lumberjack.

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Discussion started 09/07/2005 09:53 AM by Craig - 1 reply (last reply by anonymous at 09/23/2005 03:28 PM)
Craig from columbia, mo on 09/07/2005 09:53 AM
Polly's is a little piece of heaven. A very nice lady who runs a lovely bed and breakfast a stone's throw from the Katy Trail. She will make you a breakfast fit for a lumberjack.



Also, about a ten minute walk from her place is John El's BBQ, open on Friday and Saturday only. Definitely worth a visit as well.

 
Anonymous on 09/23/2005 03:28 PM
Another place clost to the trail in Pilot Grove is "Becky's Burgers & Cones" Everything is homemade!!!


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Riding
 -  + I was wondering if anyone has put together a Katy Trail race?
Discussion started 03/07/2005 08:33 AM by Doug - 11 replies (last reply by Doug at 09/23/2005 03:18 PM)
Doug from Saint Charles on 03/07/2005 08:33 AM
I was wondering if anyone has put together a Katy Trail race?

 
Doug from Saint Charles on 03/07/2005 08:33 AM
I was wondering if anyone has put together a Katy Trail race?

 
Ray (webmaster) on 03/09/2005 12:51 PM
I assume you're talking about bike races -- surprisingly, I am not aware of any. Other than the Race Across America, which uses a small part of the Katy Trail, but you have to ride the other 3000 miles to participate in this coast-to-coast race!



On the other hand, there are usually a few running races on the trail each year. The Lewis & Clark Marathon uses part of the trail near St Charles each September, and there are usually a handful of other 5K/10K type foot races every year.



If/when I learn about any races, whether running or cycling, I'll add them to the Events Page.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 03/09/2005 12:51 PM
I assume you're talking about bike races -- surprisingly, I am not aware of any. Other than the Race Across America, which uses a small part of the Katy Trail, but you have to ride the other 3000 miles to participate in this coast-to-coast race!



On the other hand, there are usually a few running races on the trail each year. The Lewis & Clark Marathon uses part of the trail near St Charles each September, and there are usually a handful of other 5K/10K type foot races every year.



If/when I learn about any races, whether running or cycling, I'll add them to the Events Page.

 
Dave from Carrollton, TX on 06/15/2005 01:29 AM
Don't believe racing is the purpose of the Katy Trail...or any trail.

 
Dave from Carrollton, TX on 06/15/2005 01:29 AM
Don't believe racing is the purpose of the Katy Trail...or any trail.

 
Doug from Saint Charles on 07/06/2005 01:24 PM
Who are you to say what the Katy is for? Of course it is for relaxing but can also be used for Mountain Bike racing.

 
Doug from Saint Charles on 07/06/2005 01:24 PM
Who are you to say what the Katy is for? Of course it is for relaxing but can also be used for Mountain Bike racing.

 
Trail Rider from Los Angeles on 07/06/2005 03:31 PM
I thought about this while riding the trail the other day. While I took four days to do the ride, if we went more minimalist on the gear, I think the whole trail could be done in around 15 hours. There were so few trail users during the time we were on the trail, I don't think that a group of riders going 20mph would be a problem at all. The Katy trail is a bike path, and racing is riding.

 
Trail Rider from Los Angeles on 07/06/2005 03:31 PM
I thought about this while riding the trail the other day. While I took four days to do the ride, if we went more minimalist on the gear, I think the whole trail could be done in around 15 hours. There were so few trail users during the time we were on the trail, I don't think that a group of riders going 20mph would be a problem at all. The Katy trail is a bike path, and racing is riding.

 
Nails on 07/12/2005 08:19 AM
A small portion of the Heart of America (Columbia) Marathon also uses the KATY trail.
http://ctc.coin.org/hoa/course.htm

As reported on this website, Sam Baugh rode the KATY trail in one day.
http://www.bikekatytrail.com/samreport.asp

 
Nails on 07/12/2005 08:19 AM
A small portion of the Heart of America (Columbia) Marathon also uses the KATY trail.
http://ctc.coin.org/hoa/course.htm

As reported on this website, Sam Baugh rode the KATY trail in one day.
http://www.bikekatytrail.com/samreport.asp

 
Doug from Saint Charles Missouri on 08/23/2005 03:12 PM
Thanks Everyone. I plan on starting up a Katy Race this fall. 5 mile dash.

 
Doug from Saint Charles Missouri on 08/23/2005 03:12 PM
Thanks Everyone. I plan on starting up a Katy Race this fall. 5 mile dash.

 
Sue from Balwin, Mo. on 09/09/2005 10:27 AM
The KATY is for SITE SEEING not RACING.

 
Sue from Balwin, Mo. on 09/09/2005 10:27 AM
The KATY is for SITE SEEING not RACING.

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/09/2005 01:31 PM
That's what I appreciate the Katy for, but it is a state park and Missouri State Park rules apply. It lends itself to many people for many uses. Groups have been known to host benefit rides on the Katy...not for site seeing, but to raise money for their cause.



Looking at the DNR website, it appears that the park can be used for other things. According to the DNR website:



Special Event Permits



All groups or organizations desiring to use Katy Trail State Park for a special event activity must obtain a special event permit from the Missouri Department of Natural Resources. E-mail or call 1-800-334-6946 for information on how to obtain a special event permit.


 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/09/2005 01:31 PM
That's what I appreciate the Katy for, but it is a state park and Missouri State Park rules apply. It lends itself to many people for many uses. Groups have been known to host benefit rides on the Katy...not for site seeing, but to raise money for their cause.



Looking at the DNR website, it appears that the park can be used for other things. According to the DNR website:



Special Event Permits



All groups or organizations desiring to use Katy Trail State Park for a special event activity must obtain a special event permit from the Missouri Department of Natural Resources. E-mail or call 1-800-334-6946 for information on how to obtain a special event permit.


 
Doug from Saint Charles on 09/23/2005 12:54 PM
The KATY is for SITE SEEING not RACING.

- posted 9/9/2005 10:28:00 AM by Sue , Balwin, Mo

Hey Sue stay home and knit something.

 
Doug from Saint Charles on 09/23/2005 12:54 PM
The KATY is for SITE SEEING not RACING.

- posted 9/9/2005 10:28:00 AM by Sue , Balwin, Mo

Hey Sue stay home and knit something.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 09/23/2005 02:18 PM
I agree that the Katy Trail is great for site seeing, AND racing, but let's not get any flame wars going.



I would bet that most people who participate in such a race have already had previous, more leisurely experiences on the trail. Racers who have not used the Katy in a more relaxed manner, will probably be tempted to come back for an easy run/ride after getting a taste of it during the race.



Doug, let me know if/when you organize the race, and I'll help publicize it through this website.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 09/23/2005 02:18 PM
I agree that the Katy Trail is great for site seeing, AND racing, but let's not get any flame wars going.



I would bet that most people who participate in such a race have already had previous, more leisurely experiences on the trail. Racers who have not used the Katy in a more relaxed manner, will probably be tempted to come back for an easy run/ride after getting a taste of it during the race.



Doug, let me know if/when you organize the race, and I'll help publicize it through this website.

 
Doug from Saint Charles on 09/23/2005 03:18 PM
I'm sorry Ray. Didn't mean to lash back at Sue the Rule maker of the Katy trail. I'll instead use my energy for the good an put this race in motion.

 
Doug from Saint Charles on 09/23/2005 03:18 PM
I'm sorry Ray. Didn't mean to lash back at Sue the Rule maker of the Katy trail. I'll instead use my energy for the good an put this race in motion.


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Raise your hand: riders on the trail Sept. 25-30...east to west
 -  + Anyone riding the trail from Sept 25-30th going east to west...
raise your hand. My friend and i will be starting in St. Charles and going to Sedalia.
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gretchen from glen ellyn, il on 09/22/2005 11:14 AM
Anyone riding the trail from Sept 25-30th going east to west...

raise your hand. My friend and i will be starting in St. Charles and going to Sedalia.


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Planning a trip
 -  + We would like to drive from Memphis to Rocheport and spend the night then ride the trail the next day to Hartsburg. Does anyone know of a shuttle that will take us from Hartsburg back to our car at R...
Discussion started 09/10/2005 09:40 AM by slp - 3 replies (last reply by gretchen at 09/22/2005 07:16 AM)
slp from Memphis on 09/10/2005 09:40 AM
We would like to drive from Memphis to Rocheport and spend the night then ride the trail the next day to Hartsburg. Does anyone know of a shuttle that will take us from Hartsburg back to our car at Rocheport?



Thanks,

 
Rob from Liberty, MO on 09/10/2005 08:21 PM
I would call or e-mail the Trailside Cafe and Bike shop at Rocheport or Hartsburg Cycle Depot at Hartsburg.

http://www.trailsidecafebike.com/

http://www.hartsburg-cycledepot.com/hartsburg_cycle_depot_001.htm

 
Ray (webmaster) on 09/11/2005 08:49 AM
Also, here's a link to a list of Katy Trail shuttle services - you might want to call a few to check prices and availability.

 
gretchen from glen ellyn, il on 09/22/2005 07:16 AM
I'm riding from St. Charles to Sedalia this Sunday-Thurs...anyone planning on being out there? Maybe we'll see each other!


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Trail Conditions
 -  + I will be biking the trail on a hybrid bike from Sedalia to St Charles starting this Friday. I would like to know the conditions of the trail: any sandy or washed-out areas to watch out for? I had rea...
Discussion started 09/20/2005 09:33 PM by bikerLaura - 2 replies (last reply by Trek Biker at 09/21/2005 04:54 PM)
bikerLaura from Round Lake, IL on 09/20/2005 09:33 PM
I will be biking the trail on a hybrid bike from Sedalia to St Charles starting this Friday. I would like to know the conditions of the trail: any sandy or washed-out areas to watch out for? I had read a while back about a segment near Hartsburg being washed-out.

 
frank from festus, mo on 09/20/2005 11:40 PM
rode from hartsburg to no jefferson and back in late july / early august. bouts 2-3 miles east of hartsburg, there were numerous areas that was like soft powder. other than that, great riding. have fun / good luck.

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/21/2005 04:54 PM
There is a button (Trail Conditions) a few down from the Comments button that got you here......try that or check out Missouri State Parks at http://www.mostateparks.com/katytrail/conditions.htm


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Hermann
 -  + Before the trip, kept getting told that the Hermann bridge was death. It wasn't really that bad to me or my riding buddy. Perhaps I'm getting to be an experienced cyclist. Very cute city. Stayed i...
Discussion started 02/22/2005 04:07 PM by Tommy - 2 replies (last reply by Greg at 09/21/2005 10:28 AM)
Tommy from Lawrence, KS on 02/22/2005 04:07 PM
Before the trip, kept getting told that the Hermann bridge was death. It wasn't really that bad to me or my riding buddy. Perhaps I'm getting to be an experienced cyclist. Very cute city. Stayed in the city park with a bunch of friendly RVers. Never figured out how to pay a fee, so didn't. The Hermann bike shop is a very minimal affair. He had the tool I needed to borrow (lockring remover), though I was certainly more adept at using it. Don't expect major repair work.

 
JULIA from HERMANN on 09/04/2005 08:05 PM
THE REASON FOR THE MINIMAL SERVICE AT THE BIKE SHOP IS BECAUSE IT IS OWNED AND OPERATED BY OML ONE OR TWO MEN

 
Greg from KC on 09/21/2005 10:28 AM
Any bike rental shops in Hermann? May need to rent bikes for a couple of people for an afternoon of fun on the Katy Trail on Friday Sept. 30th. Price? Contact? We will be doing a little party/happy hour ride that afternoon/evening. We're staying the weekend so this will be our "opening" activities. Any info is greatly appreciated! Thanks! Greg (aka: "Coach" 20+ years of ragbrai)


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Photo opportunities
 -  + I will be biking the trail from Sedalia to St. Charles in late September. I'd like to know what would be some good things of interest to take pictures of, preferably close to the trail; e.g., old barn...
Discussion started 08/10/2005 08:58 PM by bikerLaura - 5 replies (last reply by Bill at 09/21/2005 05:19 AM)
bikerLaura from Round Lake, IL on 08/10/2005 08:58 PM
I will be biking the trail from Sedalia to St. Charles in late September. I'd like to know what would be some good things of interest to take pictures of, preferably close to the trail; e.g., old barns, railroad stuff, old farm tools, old stores, etc.

 
bikerLaura from Round Lake, IL on 08/10/2005 08:58 PM
I will be biking the trail from Sedalia to St. Charles in late September. I'd like to know what would be some good things of interest to take pictures of, preferably close to the trail; e.g., old barns, railroad stuff, old farm tools, old stores, etc.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 08/11/2005 12:57 AM
Here are a few web pages to give you some ideas. The MKT Railroad History along the Trail webpage lists a lot of interesting photo subjects: old train cars, rehabbed depots, and more. Also check out the Points of Interest along the trail page - this is a hodgepodge of interesting places and sites, many of which are camera-worthy. And of course, you'll find no shortage of scenic landscapes, especially along the river.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 08/11/2005 12:57 AM
Here are a few web pages to give you some ideas. The MKT Railroad History along the Trail webpage lists a lot of interesting photo subjects: old train cars, rehabbed depots, and more. Also check out the Points of Interest along the trail page - this is a hodgepodge of interesting places and sites, many of which are camera-worthy. And of course, you'll find no shortage of scenic landscapes, especially along the river.

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 08/11/2005 01:42 PM


The Katy Trail Guidebook has some pics of things along the trail that may be of interest such as the tile silo between New Franklin and Rocheport. Just west of Rocheport a mile or so on the north side of the trail is an old barn that sits back in a pasture that is surrounded by woods......it takes a pretty good pic.



I find the bluffs east of Rocheport along I-70 interesting. There are persimmon trees, bittersweet, indian paintbrush, etc. The bluffs are intereting also...I've a few pics of geese perched next to the petroglyphs.



There are plenty of photo ops.....just keep your eyes open. Enjoy!

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 08/11/2005 01:42 PM


The Katy Trail Guidebook has some pics of things along the trail that may be of interest such as the tile silo between New Franklin and Rocheport. Just west of Rocheport a mile or so on the north side of the trail is an old barn that sits back in a pasture that is surrounded by woods......it takes a pretty good pic.



I find the bluffs east of Rocheport along I-70 interesting. There are persimmon trees, bittersweet, indian paintbrush, etc. The bluffs are intereting also...I've a few pics of geese perched next to the petroglyphs.



There are plenty of photo ops.....just keep your eyes open. Enjoy!

 
frank from festus, mo on 08/13/2005 07:58 PM
check out the old turn table across from the katy roundhouse in franklin. it's on the site of an old train garage. it has chain link around it, but very much worth the time to look at it. have fun ridin the katy. frank

 
frank from festus, mo on 08/13/2005 07:58 PM
check out the old turn table across from the katy roundhouse in franklin. it's on the site of an old train garage. it has chain link around it, but very much worth the time to look at it. have fun ridin the katy. frank

 
Lisa from Peers, Missouri on 09/13/2005 10:41 AM
I would suggest stopping in Peers to check out the old general store. I believe it is the longest continuously operating store in Missouri. It is a small general store that has stayed in the family for over 100 years. The store has survived many floods and the old wood floors show it. In 1994 the flood waters were over 6 feet hight in the building - the store has pictures of all the recent floods. The local farmers are in there every morning for their coffee and to discuss their crops, weather, etc. Just a really quaint little place. Peers is so small that it isn't on all the trail maps - it is between Treloar and Marthasville.

 
Lisa from Peers, Missouri on 09/13/2005 10:41 AM
I would suggest stopping in Peers to check out the old general store. I believe it is the longest continuously operating store in Missouri. It is a small general store that has stayed in the family for over 100 years. The store has survived many floods and the old wood floors show it. In 1994 the flood waters were over 6 feet hight in the building - the store has pictures of all the recent floods. The local farmers are in there every morning for their coffee and to discuss their crops, weather, etc. Just a really quaint little place. Peers is so small that it isn't on all the trail maps - it is between Treloar and Marthasville.

 
Bill from Jefferson City on 09/21/2005 05:19 AM
At Rocheport,the KATY railroad tunnel,bluffs, and pictographs discussed in William Least-Heat Moon's book "River Horse" and the river view from the bluff-top winery property "A" frame can each give photo opportunities. Also like the "pierced rock" near McBaine, Carnahan Point where the river and trail make a big bend near Claysville, and the spur to the Noren Conservation Access for good shots of a river view of the Mo. State Capitol.

 
Bill from Jefferson City on 09/21/2005 05:19 AM
At Rocheport,the KATY railroad tunnel,bluffs, and pictographs discussed in William Least-Heat Moon's book "River Horse" and the river view from the bluff-top winery property "A" frame can each give photo opportunities. Also like the "pierced rock" near McBaine, Carnahan Point where the river and trail make a big bend near Claysville, and the spur to the Noren Conservation Access for good shots of a river view of the Mo. State Capitol.


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Clifton City water
 -  + Last time I was through Clifton City, the trailhead had no running water. Was wondering if perhaps that has changed or if anyone knows if there's a Casey's Store or anything close to get water if nee...
Discussion started 09/19/2005 05:01 PM by margie - 0 replies
margie on 09/19/2005 05:01 PM
Last time I was through Clifton City, the trailhead had no running water. Was wondering if perhaps that has changed or if anyone knows if there's a Casey's Store or anything close to get water if needed.

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