Dutzow Deli & Restaurant (Dutzow)
- + Good food and service
Discussion started 03/18/2007 07:43 PM by elsutton - 8 replies (last reply by anonymous at 03/28/2007 08:19 AM)elsutton on 03/18/2007 07:43 PM
Good food and service
DougK from Troy on 03/22/2007 10:21 AM
Get the Katy sub, it's awesome. The service is prompt and the locals ar possibly the nicest people I've ate.
Lynn from Mansfield, Ohio on 03/22/2007 01:32 PM
Lord have mercy!!!! They actually serve local people on plates???? Ha Ha!!! Just a little humor here. Lynnrbiker, OH.
Jason from Huntsville, AL on 03/22/2007 02:25 PM
I've heard that the locals are more tender than out of towners. ;-)
DougK from Troy on 03/22/2007 08:15 PM
Ya,ya,ya. I re-read my post and am still scratching my head. What I meant was: Order the Katy, it's awesome. The service is great and the people are quite possibly the nicest you'll ever meet. I know that I'll get abuse from you guys for a long time. Can't wait till someone else messes up, it takes the heat off me.
missouri resident on 03/22/2007 08:44 PM
good one doug, happens to the best of us. next time it'll be some one else.
Jason from Huntsville, AL on 03/26/2007 02:14 PM
Just playin' with ya Doug...gotta keep the forum humorous. :)
Lynn from Mansfield, Ohio on 03/26/2007 02:38 PM
Doug, I think that laughing is a very good medicine and we all need to work on good health. It sounds like you were not offended and my intention was certainly just to draw a little attention to an opportunity to put a smile on more faces. Thanks!!! Keep up the good work. Who knows, I'll probably be next!!! Lynn
Anonymous from Springfield,Mo. on 03/28/2007 08:19 AM
Dutzow Restaurant is a great place for breakfast. I camp over at Steamboat Junction and bike to Dutzow for breakfast.
Lodging for family reunion
- + We're looking for a guest house with at least four bedrooms for a family weekend in August 2007. There will be eight adults and one small child. We would prefer to have a kitchen and do our own cook...
Discussion started 02/05/2007 06:11 PM by mk - 3 replies (last reply by Rhona Lococo at 03/23/2007 10:51 PM)mk from athens on 02/05/2007 06:11 PM
We're looking for a guest house with at least four bedrooms for a family weekend in August 2007. There will be eight adults and one small child. We would prefer to have a kitchen and do our own cooking. Please comment if know of a place that would accomodate us.
Mike from Rocheport on 03/21/2007 09:17 PM
Try the Katy Trail Bed and Bikefest - they have opened a three bedroom, two bath "tree house" just south of the trail. Think it requires a two-night minimum - you can find their website by clicking on the Rocheport information on this website . . .
MAH from Blue Springs MO on 03/22/2007 12:40 PM
The Doll House B&B in Rhineland would also be a nice choice that may fill your needs. We stayed there last fall and it was exceptionally nice.
Rhona Lococo from St. Charles Mo. on 03/23/2007 10:51 PM
Check out Lococo House ll, in St. Charles ----3 blocks from the Katy trail head ---- 5 bed rooms, good locations,resonable rates ---check out www.lococohouse.com ------shuttle service and hot tub -----great for family gatherings
post office/general delivery possibilitys
- + has anyone had any experience in using the post office in some of the towns for a resupply point?
thru hikers use this method for extended trips that help lighten the load, shipping themselves clot...
Discussion started 01/23/2007 05:21 PM by jsaon - 2 replies (last reply by anonymous at 03/23/2007 03:16 PM)jsaon from Eureka Springs AR on 01/23/2007 05:21 PM
has anyone had any experience in using the post office in some of the towns for a resupply point?
thru hikers use this method for extended trips that help lighten the load, shipping themselves clothing, food, medicine, ect.
I am planning a there and back from clinton camping and would like to travel light for ten days or so.
I have called some of the post offices and they don't seem to have the experience with this that the P.O.'s on the Pacific coast trail or the appalation trail.
any thoughts?
Jack from Los Angeles on 03/14/2007 10:53 PM
You should be able to use General Delivery. The will only hold for up to thirty days.
Anonymous on 03/23/2007 03:16 PM
Jason I have asked the post master on the proper way to send mail and this is what he said
Your name( Jason????)
Attention on the Katy Trail
General delivery
Hartsburg Mo, 65039 (or to the post office of your choice)
hope this helps
Transportation from Sedalia to Clinton
- + Amtrack will take us and our bikes from St. Louis to Sedalia. Is there a service to transport riders and bikes from Sedalia to Clinton? We would hate to miss 35 miles of the trail.
Discussion started 03/13/2007 01:11 PM by Wil - 5 replies (last reply by anonymous at 03/23/2007 11:51 AM)Wil from St. Louis on 03/13/2007 01:11 PM
Amtrack will take us and our bikes from St. Louis to Sedalia. Is there a service to transport riders and bikes from Sedalia to Clinton? We would hate to miss 35 miles of the trail.
missouri on 03/13/2007 05:31 PM
wil, st. louis, look for shuttle services on this web site and call them. thats bouts the best way to find out. have fun.
trinjboro from Jonesboro, AR on 03/16/2007 12:05 PM
I rode the trail in 2005 riding the Amtrack to Sedalia, and spent the money for a shuttle ($50) from Sedalia to Clinton. Unless you just want say you rode the entire trail, I would not waste the time and money on the Clinton to Sedalia part. The scenery is boooooring (mostly pastureland) and horses are allowed on this portion of the trail. Bicycles have to yield to horses, and the horseback riders I ran into were extremely rude and abrasive.
Jason from Huntsville, AL on 03/16/2007 02:21 PM
I agree that the portion from Clinton to Sedalia is pretty boring. If you want to say that you did the whole trail, then obviously you would need to cover this part of the trail. If you are wanting to ride this section for its beauty, I wouldn't worry about it. Don't get me wrong...it's not bad or ugly, just not as beautiful as other pasts of the trail.
DougK from Troy on 03/22/2007 08:18 PM
trinjboro,
Which shuttle service did you use?
Anonymous on 03/23/2007 11:51 AM
Don't remember for sure. It was a local Sedalia cab service that I got from the internet yellow pages. I'm not sure if they are still in business. You might try B & L Airport Shuttle, Sedalia, MO 65301 (660) 221-4406
Best Value Inn Summit Plaza (N. Jefferson)
- + We book a room here last october during our ride. While reserving the room I asked about the cancellation policy, just in case we didn't make it. When we showed up they already cancelled our reserva...
Discussion started 03/22/2007 03:10 PM by Dave - 0 repliesDave from Sedelia on 03/22/2007 03:10 PM
We book a room here last october during our ride. While reserving the room I asked about the cancellation policy, just in case we didn't make it. When we showed up they already cancelled our reservation and filled our room because they said they didn't think we would be showing up.
Dave from Sedelia on 03/22/2007 03:10 PM
We book a room here last october during our ride. While reserving the room I asked about the cancellation policy, just in case we didn't make it. When we showed up they already cancelled our reservation and filled our room because they said they didn't think we would be showing up.
Fishing?
- + My 12 year old son and I are planning an easy ride from Rhineland to St. Charles, and we were wondering about opportunities for fishing...
Are there places to fish? Can you fish the Missouri Ri...
Discussion started 03/19/2007 02:46 PM by DPN - 1 reply (last reply by Arkie at 03/21/2007 06:04 PM)DPN from Paragould, AR on 03/19/2007 02:46 PM
My 12 year old son and I are planning an easy ride from Rhineland to St. Charles, and we were wondering about opportunities for fishing...
Are there places to fish? Can you fish the Missouri River, and can you get to the water, or is it private property?
Also, any problems with dogs in that stretch?
Thanks,
DPN
Arkie on 03/21/2007 06:04 PM
There is access to the river along the way but not always the easiest to traverse. There are also several sloughs and backwaters that look to be infested with crappie maybe?
RIding with a Burley lite and child - tires and suggestions
- + We are planning to ride in late March and the first week in APril with a bike that has tires that say 28 x 1 1/4, with a Burley lite attached. I am having trouble interpreting the size of these tires...
Discussion started 03/17/2007 10:55 PM by Malva - 4 replies (last reply by Norm at 03/20/2007 04:24 PM)Malva from Mpls on 03/17/2007 10:55 PM
We are planning to ride in late March and the first week in APril with a bike that has tires that say 28 x 1 1/4, with a Burley lite attached. I am having trouble interpreting the size of these tires as compared with peoples' recommendations for tires that are 32 or 28. Can anyone help me ? WIll it make a difference that I am hauling the Burley lite behind the bike? How do my tires compare with 32 tires? And does anyone have expereince with taking a )? Thanks.
Norm from Raymore, MO on 03/18/2007 07:49 PM
The 1-1/4 tires you have are the same breadth as 32, the former being inches and the latter in millimeters. These tires should do fine on any part of the KATY Trail, being in the larger cross-sectional size range. The type of tread can make a difference though. On the trail you don't need knobby tires and they will slow you down. It would be worth changing to a smoother tread in the same 1-1/4 size. I'm not familiar with the trailer you're carrying, but the tire size on it isn't as important as it is on the bicycle, which is carrying the load and providing steering and maneuvering. Have a great ride!
trinjboro from Jonesboro, AR on 03/19/2007 12:13 PM
I agree with Norm about the tread. I rode the KATY my first time on a mountain bike with knobby tires. They were overkill and really slowed down my speed. I would have changed to a smoother tread if I'd known how much the knobbies would affect my time on the trail.
Malva from Mpls on 03/20/2007 12:23 PM
tires for 9-year-old and Burley for 3-year-old. The word Burley lite was left off my comment.
I also meant to ask if anyone had taken a young child (ours is 3) on the trail in a trailer and
what their experience was like. Also, our 9 year old does have knobby tires on his bike and
does ride slower than we do. We are already spending a lot on tuneups, tires, overhauls and
I'd rather not get him new tires since he'll probably grow out of the bike after this coming
season. Do people think we really should invest in new tires for him for this ride? Thanks
Norm from Raymore, MO on 03/20/2007 04:24 PM
Your entry today sheds a whole new light on tyour situation. With your 9 year old riding what is perhaps a smaller bike with knobby tires (and probably one-speed) this will set the pace for your riding the trail. I know from experience; my grandsons at 11 years old on their "buzz" bikes couldn't keep up with me on my hybrid 24-speed. So the tire sizes shouldn't be that much of a factor or the treads. You might want to take some practice rides at home to see how far you can go in a given amount of time and how soon everyone is ready to stop. I have ridden from a trailhead out to the point where I feel that I'm halfway to being worn out, then turn around and go back to the trailhead. My very first time on the KATY Trail I rode solo 35 miles from Rocheport to Jefferson City. It was quite an experience and I learned a lot from it.
Rumples Pub (St Charles)
- + This is the coolest bar! I love the atmosphere, the food(great steaks!), and the music is fantastic...easy on the ears! We are there at least once a week. If you are looking for a great place that off...
Discussion started 03/19/2007 11:48 AM by regular @ rumples - 0 repliesregular @ rumples from St. Charles Mo. on 03/19/2007 11:48 AM
This is the coolest bar! I love the atmosphere, the food(great steaks!), and the music is fantastic...easy on the ears! We are there at least once a week. If you are looking for a great place that offers everything from food to music, Rumples is it!
regular @ rumples from St. Charles Mo. on 03/19/2007 11:48 AM
This is the coolest bar! I love the atmosphere, the food(great steaks!), and the music is fantastic...easy on the ears! We are there at least once a week. If you are looking for a great place that offers everything from food to music, Rumples is it!
Easter in Rocheport?
- + We'll be spending Easter Sunday in Rocheport - anyone aware of a church in the area?
Discussion started 03/15/2007 08:31 PM by elonalum - 4 replies (last reply by savage24 at 03/18/2007 01:18 PM)elonalum from Kansas City on 03/15/2007 08:31 PM
We'll be spending Easter Sunday in Rocheport - anyone aware of a church in the area?
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 03/15/2007 10:15 PM
Click the "Rocheport" link above in the map.....click on the link for http://www.rocheport.com.....a wealth of information there about Rocheport.....including church info. Enjoy!
savage24 from KC,MO on 03/15/2007 10:25 PM
Any particular denomination? I think there is a Baptist church on Lewis street.
elonalum from Kansas City on 03/17/2007 09:19 AM
Catholic but whatever is there will be fine - doesn't seem to be a catholic church in Rocheport. Thanks again for the info.
savage24 from KC,MO on 03/18/2007 01:18 PM
I have friends who are members of the Catholic church in Boonville. They used to live near Rocheport but are in Boonville now. There may be members who live in or very near Rocheport who would be happy to provide transportation for your family on Easter Sunday. Why not give the church a call and ask?
S.S. Peter & Paul Catholic Church, Boonville, MO 660-882-6468
Cat Nap Inn on BikeKaty Trail.com
- + I am interested in listing our B&B on the Hermann page, and was just wondering how much it costs ... thanks for any info. Also, I would like to link you to our page, and didnt know if it was possible...
Discussion started 03/17/2007 10:36 PM by Kathy Durham - 0 repliesKathy Durham from Hermann, Mo. on 03/17/2007 10:36 PM
I am interested in listing our B&B on the Hermann page, and was just wondering how much it costs ... thanks for any info. Also, I would like to link you to our page, and didnt know if it was possible to do that. Thanks, Kathy Durham Cat Nap Inn.
camp grounds
- + hey folks, my son and his cub scout troop is wanting to do a bike ride and campout over night and bike ride back the next day.. maximum 15 miles one way. where would be the best place to camp that c...
Discussion started 03/17/2007 05:29 PM by donna lucas - 1 reply (last reply by savage24 at 03/17/2007 09:52 PM)donna lucas from de soto, mo on 03/17/2007 05:29 PM
hey folks, my son and his cub scout troop is wanting to do a bike ride and campout over night and bike ride back the next day.. maximum 15 miles one way. where would be the best place to camp that can hold 10 to 15 cub scouts plus dads. any help is appreciated.
savage24 from KC,MO on 03/17/2007 09:52 PM
Hi Donna,
See the thread titled 'Scout trip' started by Tom, from Overland Park on Jan. 19 2007. (about halfway down page 3 right now)
First Time Ride
- + What would folks recommend for a first time ride? My mother has always wanted to ride the trail. So it will be my mom, wife, and myself. I have a year of road bikin under me but the women folk are ...
Discussion started 03/12/2007 08:51 PM by Mike - 3 replies (last reply by Norm at 03/14/2007 09:43 PM)Mike from Dallas on 03/12/2007 08:51 PM
What would folks recommend for a first time ride? My mother has always wanted to ride the trail. So it will be my mom, wife, and myself. I have a year of road bikin under me but the women folk are not big cyclists. Since we are flying in from St. Louis and mom will meet us there can you give us ideas?
Cliff from Edwardsville Kansas on 03/13/2007 11:47 AM
I would recommend the Rocheport area. I know it's a long drive from St. Louis but definetly worth it. You could ride east along the bluffs and river, I think it is the most scenic ride on the trail. The trail is flat and very easy to ride. Last fall we rode from Rocheport to Hartsburg {28 miles} which would be a nice ride for first time trail riders. We stayed at the Hartsburg Inn, nothing fancy but very clean and nice. We ate at the Summit Hill Winery and Dotties Cafe, both places were very good. You could go on east or ride back to Rocheport. The Katy Trail Bed and Breakfst was very nice in Rocheport and I would recommend the Rocheport General Store for a meal. If you ride on east I would suggest Herman. The people that own the Bike shop in Herman also own a Bed and Breakfst called the Secret Vine and they would come and pick you up on the west side of the bridge in Herman. I hope this helps. Have a great ride!
missouri on 03/13/2007 12:59 PM
mike from dallas, pretty much what cliff, from edwardsville, kansas said. don't forget the rocheport tunnel that is a must. defiance to augusta is a nice ride also and not quite as far as rocheport from st. louis, and with some nice rest stops in between. though not quite as scenic, it is still a nice ride, with snack shops on both ends. also there are some b & b's in augusta i believe. any which way, have fun.
Norm from Raymore, MO on 03/14/2007 09:43 PM
I agree with the Rocheport area for a first ride. At about age 56, when I took my first ride 15 years ago I rode from Rocheport to Jefferson City (about 35 miles). It turned out to be more than I had expected and I was really exhausted when I met my wife at the end. Since then I have taken shorter trips and enjoyed them more, taking pictures and just enjoying the outdoors. I've also learned to turn around and head back BEFORE I start getting tired. Enjoy the Katy Trail!
St. Charles to Clinton or Clinton to St. Charles? Which one?
- + I'm thinking about riding the full trail this year and was thinking were I should start. Is there one direction that would be easier with more downhill grades and maybe less wind (I was thinking the ...
Discussion started 03/11/2007 08:56 PM by KJK - 7 replies (last reply by dale at 03/14/2007 12:18 PM)KJK from Kansas City, MO on 03/11/2007 08:56 PM
I'm thinking about riding the full trail this year and was thinking were I should start. Is there one direction that would be easier with more downhill grades and maybe less wind (I was thinking the wind would generally go west to east, but it might not even matter since it would be so random). Also what are some less obvious things I should bring that I would not be thinking about. I do not plan on camping, but staying at hotels. Thanks for your help.
Jason from Huntsville, AL on 03/12/2007 09:40 AM
We rode the trail in October last year from west to east. In general, I think that this is the easiest direction to go. As you know from being a cyclist, you never know which way the wind is going to blow and it seems like you always have a head wind. We did encounter a strong headwind several days, but it did help to cool things off. I think that either direction is fine...there is hardly any elevation change at all. As for what to bring...of course plenty of water and snacks, extra tubes and a pump/Co2 inflator, sunscreen, and a good camera. Have a blast...you will love it!
Anonymous on 03/12/2007 11:35 AM
There are some long slow grades on the western end..definately not hills...just long low grades that go on for a mile or two. For me, I like to get them done first (OK, I'm over 50 and when fully loaded, to me they are tiring..maybe it's more a mental thing as they seem to go on forever). I have found that most riders under 50 don't even mention them, and maybe only 1/3 of the riders over 50 agree with me. Guess it's what you're used to. Once you reach Boonville and continue east, it truly does become FLAT except accasional little bumps over roads/levys. I've done the trail 3 times and have gone west to east each time. Jason covered most essentials. Definately bring spare tubes and a pump/CO2. Watch for the viney things that tend to trail over the surface of the trail in spots as they do have thorns. A camera is also a must. On the western end, all trailheads have drinking water avail except for Clifton City. On the Eastern half, you have to be careful as all trailheads do not have water (although you can usually find water/soda if you check out local establishments). There was a thread on this board last fall re which trailheads had water avail.
Have fun!
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 03/12/2007 11:49 AM
There is a rather long gradual incline from Pilot Grove to Boonville which ends with a nice decline on Lard Hill to the trailhead. Nothing major…..but just enough to know that it’s there.
sbikes from Kansas City on 03/12/2007 07:37 PM
And, you know that there really aren't "hotels" most places along the Trail? Plan ahead with
some reservations where you plan to spend the night or you may find yourself "camping"
without intending to do so! Sharon
Arkie from Fort Smith on 03/12/2007 08:45 PM
I did the trail from west to east last October and had a grand time. I stayed in hotels in Clinton (Hampton Inn), Sedalia (Best Western), Boonville (Holiday Inn Express), Columbia (Holiday Inn Select), and B & B's in Jeff City, Hermann and Augusta.
GC from Columbia, Mo. on 03/13/2007 07:25 AM
The Hotel Frederick in Boonville should be open sometime this spring, and definitely should be up and running this summer. With Glenn's Cafe located in the lobby, this should be a premier stop on the trail.
dale from springfield, mo on 03/14/2007 12:18 PM
i've ridden the trail both directions. AND I rode it during the hottest week of the year alone, fully intending and planned to campout. it was glorious and marvelous. ok ok, the heat wasn't but the trail either direction was great. watch out for those ruts that naturally occur in a trail. Either direction was fine as far as i was concerned but then i'm an avid cyclist riding about 3000 miles a year. Plan for the worst but don't dwell on it. enjoy the sites and sounds of the trail.
Safety on Trail
- + i was riding down there on the katy trail just out side of windsor and noticed that the cross arms that are up had no reflectors on them is this just a issue that i am having or has anyone else seen t...
Discussion started 03/13/2007 08:14 PM by chris jeffers - 3 replies (last reply by sbikes at 03/13/2007 09:39 PM)chris jeffers from gladstone mo on 03/13/2007 08:14 PM
i was riding down there on the katy trail just out side of windsor and noticed that the cross arms that are up had no reflectors on them is this just a issue that i am having or has anyone else seen this, just a question, also has anyone heard any updated news on the booneville bridge drop me a line and let me know please, im riding it in september
Nails on 03/13/2007 09:06 PM
Why would the State put reflectors on the cross arms when the State has dictated that the park is closed at night?
chris jeffers from gladstone mo on 03/13/2007 09:16 PM
what if you were riding early in the morning and there was fog, i was just curious.
sbikes from Kansas City on 03/13/2007 09:39 PM
Reflectors work by, well, reflecting light...most folks don't ride with the bike light on except
when it is dark and the park hours are only during daylight hours so, even if there were fog,
the reflectors would be of no help. Plus, if the fog is so heavy you can't see the gate, then
maybe its not such a good idea to be riding as there may be other obstacles on the trail like
deer, other bikers, road debris, etc.. Last I heard there is no resolution on the Booneville
bridge and so I would expect it to be the same in September as it is now...Sharon, also from
Gladstone.
Glenn's Cafe at the Frederick (Boonville)
- + Great Prime Rib, Great Chicken fried steak. Yum Yum...... Thanks Steve for a great meal !
Discussion started 03/13/2007 01:01 AM by Tony T - 0 repliesTony T on 03/13/2007 01:01 AM
Great Prime Rib, Great Chicken fried steak. Yum Yum...... Thanks Steve for a great meal !
Tony T on 03/13/2007 01:01 AM
Great Prime Rib, Great Chicken fried steak. Yum Yum...... Thanks Steve for a great meal !