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Easiest way from Page Bridge to Marine Drive?
 -  + I plan on leaving my car at the St. Charles Trailhead and taking the Page bridge to the Creve Coure connecting trail, but what is the easiest way in the park to get on Marine drive to head southeast? ...
Discussion started 06/13/2007 10:11 PM by robow7 - 4 replies (last reply by robow7 at 06/15/2007 11:53 PM)
robow7 from Danville, IL on 06/13/2007 10:11 PM
I plan on leaving my car at the St. Charles Trailhead and taking the Page bridge to the Creve Coure connecting trail, but what is the easiest way in the park to get on Marine drive to head southeast? Thank you for your help.

 
jay from olivette on 06/14/2007 05:44 PM
follow the path to creve coeur park and ride straight until you hit the parking lot. make a right once you get to the main street and follow it all the way to the top (about 1/2 mile). the intersection at the light is dorsett and marine.

 
Nails on 06/14/2007 10:50 PM
See this map for the trail around the south side of Creve Coeur Lake that Jay is describing:

http://www.modot.org/stlouis/major_projects/docs/Page_trail_brochure_504.pdf

Note: The hill up Marine Avenue is not for the faint of heart. It is steep, has lots of motor vehicles on pleasant, weekend days, and has no shoulders.

 
jay from olivette on 06/15/2007 10:12 AM
i walked up it last saturday coming back from a 60 mile ride. i had already gone over 50 miles by the time i had to walk all the way up that hill to marine. let me tell you, it was no picnic.

 
robow7 from Danville, IL on 06/15/2007 11:53 PM
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&country=US&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&addtohistory=&cat=&address=&city=st.+charles&state=mo&zipcode=#north



I guess this shows the road looping, I'm assuming that is into the parking lot. Thanks for your help, hopefully Marine won't be too busy on a Sunday afternoon to make it down to Amtrak


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Grafton Ferry to Machens trailhead
 -  + We are planning on a St Louis to Pere Marquette then back to Grafton and on to St Charles with our final destination Jefferson City bike trip in Oct. Can we take the Grafton Ferry and catch the Katy ...
Discussion started 06/08/2007 10:29 PM by Jeanne - 1 reply (last reply by Shotgun at 06/15/2007 10:46 PM)
Jeanne from Omaha on 06/08/2007 10:29 PM
We are planning on a St Louis to Pere Marquette then back to Grafton and on to St Charles with our final destination Jefferson City bike trip in Oct. Can we take the Grafton Ferry and catch the Katy Trail at the Machens trailhead? If so how? Also how far would this be from the ferry to Machens and how busy are the streets? Also, has anyone had any luck getting more than 4 bikes on Amtrak? Thanks for any info.

 
Shotgun on 06/15/2007 10:46 PM
Actually there is no trailhead at Machens, the closest trailhead to Machens is at Black Walnut. The trail does go to Machens but you have to get there from the Black Walnut area and then turn around and go back. The trail from Machens to St. Charles is not yet open and the Grafton Ferry is closer to St. Charles then it is to Black Walnut. I would consider taking highways from the ferry into St. Charles and then jump on the trail were it is officially open and you can legally ride. It would also keep you from having to backtrack. Good luck!


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Stone Hill Winery (Hermann)
 -  + Without a SAG wagon, this would have been a difficult side trip. But the tour and wine tasting were well worth the $1.50 charge. The evening dinner was great as well.
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Rex from N Little Rock, AR on 06/15/2007 09:23 PM
Without a SAG wagon, this would have been a difficult side trip. But the tour and wine tasting were well worth the $1.50 charge. The evening dinner was great as well.

 
Rex from N Little Rock, AR on 06/15/2007 09:23 PM
Without a SAG wagon, this would have been a difficult side trip. But the tour and wine tasting were well worth the $1.50 charge. The evening dinner was great as well.


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Red Brick Inn (Augusta)
 -  + It's not often that you book something over the internet and it is way better than you thought it would be. Such was our experience with the RBI - and for that matter the whole town of Augusta.
Discussion started 06/15/2007 09:12 PM by Rex - 0 replies
Rex from N Little Rock, AR on 06/15/2007 09:12 PM
It's not often that you book something over the internet and it is way better than you thought it would be. Such was our experience with the RBI - and for that matter the whole town of Augusta.



Corrinne went out of her way to make our group feel welcome. Everyone was impressed with the house and the hospitality.

 
Rex from N Little Rock, AR on 06/15/2007 09:12 PM
It's not often that you book something over the internet and it is way better than you thought it would be. Such was our experience with the RBI - and for that matter the whole town of Augusta.



Corrinne went out of her way to make our group feel welcome. Everyone was impressed with the house and the hospitality.


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Boonvile to Clinton (loop)
 -  + Were planning an out and back trip from Boonvile to Clinton. Does anyone have any advise on food, water, camping, and parking? We have Katy Trail experience but not on the Sedalia to Clinton portion...
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JME from Lake St. Louis on 06/13/2007 12:35 AM
Were planning an out and back trip from Boonvile to Clinton. Does anyone have any advise on food, water, camping, and parking? We have Katy Trail experience but not on the Sedalia to Clinton portion. Any help is appreciated.

 
caltreceft from st.l on 06/15/2007 11:21 AM
-Sedalia has a nice campground at the state fairground. Heading west, turn right (north) on the paved road that runs along the western edge of the fairgrounds for about 1/2 mile, at which point you can't miss the "campground" sign. No picnic tables, for whatever reason, but nice showers.

-Green Ridge does allow camping in their (absolutely gorgeous) city park. The downside is that you're the goldfish in the bowl: it's a one-square block park in the middle of the city. There is a restroom in the park, which the city will unlock for you if you're camping, and a gas station adjacent.

-Windsor: their city park is south of the trail about one mile. They have dedicated camping spaces near the lake, $5, no shower, but a nice place.

-Clinton allows camping behind their civic center (about .25 miles from trailhead) and also use of center shower facilities. Note they're closed on Sunday, which was an unwelcome surprise for me last month.



You don't have to worry about either running out of water or starving on this section, and I particularly recommend the sub shop in Green Ridge, just off the trail.




 
caltreceft from st.l on 06/15/2007 11:23 AM
Oh, and any follow-up questions, post it as a reply.


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Katfish Katy's Campground - Huntsdale
 -  + We camped here over Memorial Weekend, riding to Hartsburg & back one day, Columbia & back the next, and Rocheport and back on the third day.

We found this to be a comfortable place to set up ou...
Discussion started 06/07/2007 06:07 PM by kim - 7 replies (last reply by kim at 06/12/2007 04:14 PM)
kim from independence, mo on 06/07/2007 06:07 PM
We camped here over Memorial Weekend, riding to Hartsburg & back one day, Columbia & back the next, and Rocheport and back on the third day.



We found this to be a comfortable place to set up our pop-up camper, hot showers, and the store is very accomodating in their hours.



Only drawbacks were:

1. The distance from the campground to the restrooms/showers (at the store), and they are in the process of building new restroom/showers down closer to the campground.

2. The badly behaved adults and children on the site next to us. The adults kept parking their vehicles, including a truck with boat hitched to it, in front of our camping spot, once blocking us in. The children were not supervised and had several mud fights, etc. in our camp site.

Overall, a good campground, and I would recommend.

 
ET from Columbia on 06/11/2007 08:36 AM
We camped here the weekend after Memorial Day, and found it to be a gorgeous spot on the river, with plenty of breeze to keep the skeeters down. I agree that the restrooms are a longish way away, but with a bike, it's not a problem.

 
Robert from Columbia on 06/11/2007 08:59 AM
I have always found him really expensive when I have stopped there.



For example, a can of soda is $1.00. I guess he has to do what he has to do to stay open

but I think I can make it to the next stop next time.




 
missouri resident on 06/11/2007 04:18 PM
robert, from columbia,



no offense, but a $1.00 for a can of soda is not expensive in any way. your normal cooler price (soda machine) is at least a dollar. i personally paid (got robbed at holiday inn select in columbia) $2.50 for a bottle of soda, and that was 2 yrs ago, so $1.00 for a can is not expensive at all, and besides, it is helping the businesses on the katy. think of what it is costing him to buy that can of soda, and keep it cool for ya, then you try and open a business on the katy and make ends meet. if it was easy, there would be more businesses open.





have a nice day.

 
Anonymous on 06/11/2007 04:52 PM
Frank from Missouri,



Applying your logic.....did you get robbed at Holiday Inn? Or does it cost them to serve the customer too? They certainly have more in overhead and inventory than most small businesses along the trail. You were helping a business along the I-70 corridor. Corporate America needs money too.....do your part man.

 
robert from columbia on 06/12/2007 12:51 PM
My job as a consumer in this capitalist society is to decide where to spend my money.



I think $1.00 for a can of soda is too expensive for me. You might think its fair but I dont

so I wont stop there anymore.



Different strokes for different folks!



see ya

 
Anonymous on 06/12/2007 03:45 PM
i will make this comment, then stop this discussion. corporate buys the products ALOT more cheaper (it's called bulk) than does a small business. i hve no problem with corporate america making money. besides, i have stayed at that hotel many tmes, and had no problem with the cost. and a fair price is a fair price. but 2.50 for a 20 ounce bottle of soda is robbery in any ones standards, like it or not. me and robert disagree, and the gentleman he is gave his opinion like me and it will stop there. we may disagree, but thats o k.



like robert said, different strokes, for different folks.



have a nice day.








 
kim from independence, mo on 06/12/2007 04:14 PM
We all have our differing opinions and experiences. I personally have found Katfish Katy's to be a welcome stop on many bike trips, and I took the opportunity to post my camping experiences there as well.



Some may not stop, because of other experiences.



I know that many people are thrilled with their experiences, for example, at the Katy Bed & Bikefest, but my experience there, and the follow-up with the owners, was less than ideal, so I will likely not return.



We should try to mention the positives and negatives of our experiences with any of the businesses along the trail, giving others the information to make their own decisions about whether they will or won't visit those establishments.


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Garden Gate Bed and Breakfast (Boonville)
 -  + We biked the trail from Sedelia to Booneville and spent the night at the Garden Gate before our return trip the next day. Penny had warm cookies and fresh-squeezed lemonade ready for our arrival, made...
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Bob and Kelley from Kansas City on 06/12/2007 12:40 PM
We biked the trail from Sedelia to Booneville and spent the night at the Garden Gate before our return trip the next day. Penny had warm cookies and fresh-squeezed lemonade ready for our arrival, made suggestions for dinner and prepared a scrumptous breadfast for us the next morning. The food was excellent, the rooms, beds and decor outstanding and Penny is a great hostess. We highly recommend the Garden Gate.

 
Bob and Kelley from Kansas City on 06/12/2007 12:40 PM
We biked the trail from Sedelia to Booneville and spent the night at the Garden Gate before our return trip the next day. Penny had warm cookies and fresh-squeezed lemonade ready for our arrival, made suggestions for dinner and prepared a scrumptous breadfast for us the next morning. The food was excellent, the rooms, beds and decor outstanding and Penny is a great hostess. We highly recommend the Garden Gate.


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Doll House B&B (Rhineland) June 12th 2007
 -  + We rode in from Jefferson City, arrived around 4:30pm. The room was cozy and peaceful, we
were able to take a quick shower and nice nap before walking to the resturaunt to eat. The
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Matt10e from Villa Ridge, Mo on 06/11/2007 10:32 PM
We rode in from Jefferson City, arrived around 4:30pm. The room was cozy and peaceful, we

were able to take a quick shower and nice nap before walking to the resturaunt to eat. The

breakfast was wonderful with plenty of bacon, sausage, french toast and omlet. Great orange

juice. Very peaceful accomodations, was only awaken by the smell of bacon cooking.

 
Matt10e from Villa Ridge, Mo on 06/11/2007 10:32 PM
We rode in from Jefferson City, arrived around 4:30pm. The room was cozy and peaceful, we

were able to take a quick shower and nice nap before walking to the resturaunt to eat. The

breakfast was wonderful with plenty of bacon, sausage, french toast and omlet. Great orange

juice. Very peaceful accomodations, was only awaken by the smell of bacon cooking.

 
MAH from Blue Springs, MO on 06/12/2007 10:28 AM
We also stayed here last fall. It was great, I don't have enough thumbs to give it the number of thumbs up it deserves.

 
MAH from Blue Springs, MO on 06/12/2007 10:28 AM
We also stayed here last fall. It was great, I don't have enough thumbs to give it the number of thumbs up it deserves.


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Mokane Bar and Grill (Mokane) June 12th 2007
 -  + We left heading East from Jefferson City and made it to the Mokane Bar and Grill at 11:30 for
lunch. My wife and I each ordered a Cheeseburger and fries. The burger was very tasty with
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Matt10e from Villa Ridge, Mo on 06/11/2007 10:41 PM
We left heading East from Jefferson City and made it to the Mokane Bar and Grill at 11:30 for

lunch. My wife and I each ordered a Cheeseburger and fries. The burger was very tasty with

all the fresh condomints to go along with it. The fries were plentiful. We should have only

ordered one order of fries. The two ladies that were working in there we very pleasant. We

were the only two in there until around noon when a local came into eat. We drank around a

gallon of tea between the two of us. Was a very relaxing break in the middle of our 37 mile

day.

 
Matt10e from Villa Ridge, Mo on 06/11/2007 10:41 PM
We left heading East from Jefferson City and made it to the Mokane Bar and Grill at 11:30 for

lunch. My wife and I each ordered a Cheeseburger and fries. The burger was very tasty with

all the fresh condomints to go along with it. The fries were plentiful. We should have only

ordered one order of fries. The two ladies that were working in there we very pleasant. We

were the only two in there until around noon when a local came into eat. We drank around a

gallon of tea between the two of us. Was a very relaxing break in the middle of our 37 mile

day.


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Mexico On Main (St Charles)
 -  + Ate here for the first time this week. It will probably be the last. First, after we told them how many we had in our party, the host took menus in hand, said "Follow me." Then suddnely stopped, pu...
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Carmen from St. Charles on 09/16/2005 10:06 PM
Ate here for the first time this week. It will probably be the last. First, after we told them how many we had in our party, the host took menus in hand, said "Follow me." Then suddnely stopped, put the menus down on a large table and walked away without saying a word. We didn't know what he was doing. He came back with things to clean off the table we were about to sit at. Once we got our table it was at least 15 min. before someone took our order and brought some chips. While eating chips, I was disgusted to find a chip with a glob of hair stuck to it. We pushed the chips aside and waited for our food. 45 minutes later we finally asked about our food. Waitress went to check and said it would be up in a few minutes. When she brought food, she neglected silverware. We asked for some, we saw her get some that had just been washed, and she dried them with a dirty towel. Food was not particularly good. One dish in particular was not good at all. AFter waitress asked, we said the dish wasn't very good, and then she spoke to us as little as possible after that. Will not recommend.

 
Robert from Columbia on 09/29/2005 03:50 PM
I had a good experience there. maybe you just had a bad waitress?

 
Bulwfye from Nevada on 10/03/2005 05:09 AM
Me too maybe it was your personality, Most the time you get what you give. Maybe thats all it was

 
Ocicat from St. Charles on 03/30/2006 03:59 PM
My husband and I ate there for a late lunch one Saturday and were the only people there, so I cannot complain about service. However, the food, while edible, was nothing to go back for; there is WAY better Mexican in the area. The chips were obviously straight out of a bag and stale to boot. The bench in the booth was lumpy, and my placemat was dirty; in fact, the whole place felt a bit dirty. It looked like a shabby bar caught in the glaring light of day. Overall, it was a slightly unpleasant experience, and we will not be going back.

 
jorgepuc from saint peters on 06/11/2007 06:13 PM
I go there to eat all the time and I really enjoy the food and the margaritas there is nothing bad that I can say about mexico on main.

all i can say is that you have to go there and try the food is really autentic. and alot of my friends go there and everyboly loves it.


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Yarn shops near KATY?
 -  + Looking for yarn shops within biking distance of the KATY trail.
Discussion started 05/24/2007 03:10 AM by Alloramadai - 3 replies (last reply by nancy at 06/11/2007 02:55 PM)
Alloramadai from Northern Texas on 05/24/2007 03:10 AM
Looking for yarn shops within biking distance of the KATY trail.

 
Reboot from St. Peters on 05/25/2007 01:29 PM
My wife drug me into a little crafts shop in historical St. Charles last weekend, first street away from the river parallel to the trail. It seemed like a nice enough place with some "quaint" items and unusual yarns and such.



Grand opening!

Sat. March 10, 2007 10-5

KNIT AND CABOODLE

636-916-0060

822 S. Main Street

St. Charles, MO 63301

Owner: Connie Kukal

ckukal@charter.net

 
sharonbikes from Kansas City on 05/25/2007 05:24 PM
I can't speak for the St. Louis end of the Trail, but not to my knowledge. I teach knitting and

crochet in Kansas City and so, it is something I would have noticed (you would think). Most

of the little towns along the way have a bar, a post office, a church or two and some houses

and that is about it. I don't know Columbia well enough to know if there are any yarn shops

there or not...maybe someobody here knows.

 
nancy from Kansas City on 06/11/2007 02:55 PM
There is a great yarn and fiber studio--in fact two shops under one ownership in Columbia. The Carol Leigh's Hillcreek Fiber Studio (or something like that. Loads of beautiful yarns. Have fun!


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Katy Bike Rental (Defiance)
 -  + Beware!!!!! When the owner is gone and his father in law is running the place. THIS old man is mean!!! DANGER! DO NOT GO IN this STORE IF he is THERE, he is not all with it.


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scott from house springs on 05/22/2007 08:57 AM
Beware!!!!! When the owner is gone and his father in law is running the place. THIS old man is mean!!! DANGER! DO NOT GO IN this STORE IF he is THERE, he is not all with it.




 
scott from house springs on 05/22/2007 08:57 AM
Beware!!!!! When the owner is gone and his father in law is running the place. THIS old man is mean!!! DANGER! DO NOT GO IN this STORE IF he is THERE, he is not all with it.




 
missouri resident on 05/22/2007 01:31 PM
sorry to hear bout your experience. my g'son and i stopped in there last year. there was an older gentleman there. by that i mean older than me. i'm 55. this gentleman was as courteous, friendly, and helpful as any one could ask for. i am guessing he is the owners dad.



sorry you had a bad experience.

 
missouri resident on 05/22/2007 01:31 PM
sorry to hear bout your experience. my g'son and i stopped in there last year. there was an older gentleman there. by that i mean older than me. i'm 55. this gentleman was as courteous, friendly, and helpful as any one could ask for. i am guessing he is the owners dad.



sorry you had a bad experience.

 
TMS from Festus on 05/22/2007 09:24 PM
He must have changed over the winter months. He has always been very pleasant to visit with and deal with in the past.

 
TMS from Festus on 05/22/2007 09:24 PM
He must have changed over the winter months. He has always been very pleasant to visit with and deal with in the past.

 
scott from house springs on 05/24/2007 08:57 AM
I needed to buy some bike stuff, and have a little work done to my MTB bike so I drive to defiance because the owner was always real nice. The owner was in NY and his father-in-law was there. He started bagging my bike because it didn’t have a kick stand then he got mad because I had presta valves and didn’t have the adapter. I just said I didn’t think I needed to bring it to a bike shop. He went crazy said he didn’t like my attitude and kick me out. I never be treated like this before, this man is crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
scott from house springs on 05/24/2007 08:57 AM
I needed to buy some bike stuff, and have a little work done to my MTB bike so I drive to defiance because the owner was always real nice. The owner was in NY and his father-in-law was there. He started bagging my bike because it didn’t have a kick stand then he got mad because I had presta valves and didn’t have the adapter. I just said I didn’t think I needed to bring it to a bike shop. He went crazy said he didn’t like my attitude and kick me out. I never be treated like this before, this man is crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Ric from Steeleville Ill. on 05/28/2007 10:28 AM
My wife and I have been to this store on several occasions and have never been treated badly. In fact when we are in the area we make it a point to stop. My wife loves the gift store that is attached to the bike shop. I believe it is run by his daughter. Last time we were there her store was not open yet so man I believe you are referring to open the gift store for us and told us if we needed any help he would be next door. The people there and again I may be wrong but I believe it is father and daughter who operate the two stores have never been anything but polite. Sorry about your experience, doesn’t sound like the same gentleman to me.

 
Ric from Steeleville Ill. on 05/28/2007 10:28 AM
My wife and I have been to this store on several occasions and have never been treated badly. In fact when we are in the area we make it a point to stop. My wife loves the gift store that is attached to the bike shop. I believe it is run by his daughter. Last time we were there her store was not open yet so man I believe you are referring to open the gift store for us and told us if we needed any help he would be next door. The people there and again I may be wrong but I believe it is father and daughter who operate the two stores have never been anything but polite. Sorry about your experience, doesn’t sound like the same gentleman to me.

 
Dan from Wentzville on 05/29/2007 03:09 PM
The ole' fart was nice to us!

 
Dan from Wentzville on 05/29/2007 03:09 PM
The ole' fart was nice to us!

 
Cliff from Edwardsville Kansas on 05/29/2007 03:34 PM
My wife and I rode through Defiance last Thursday and went back through on Friday. We stopped in the Bike shop both times and the older fellow could'nt have been nicer. He told us where the restrooms were and to be sure and fill up our water bottles because ther was no water between Defiance and St Charles. We talked about bikes, the trail, and his rental business. He made recommendations about where to eat in Augusta and was pleasnt as could be. On our way back to St Charles he warned us about a couple of places were trees were down over the trail and that the Conservation Dept. was working at removing them. Our stop there was great. I guess everybody is entitled to have a bad day.

 
Cliff from Edwardsville Kansas on 05/29/2007 03:34 PM
My wife and I rode through Defiance last Thursday and went back through on Friday. We stopped in the Bike shop both times and the older fellow could'nt have been nicer. He told us where the restrooms were and to be sure and fill up our water bottles because ther was no water between Defiance and St Charles. We talked about bikes, the trail, and his rental business. He made recommendations about where to eat in Augusta and was pleasnt as could be. On our way back to St Charles he warned us about a couple of places were trees were down over the trail and that the Conservation Dept. was working at removing them. Our stop there was great. I guess everybody is entitled to have a bad day.

 
Jan from Villa Grove, Illinois on 06/09/2007 08:28 AM
We stopped at the bike shop and were greeted by an older man (we are 58 and 65 and he was older than us). He was charming and helpful. There must be 2 different people involved here.

 
Jan from Villa Grove, Illinois on 06/09/2007 08:28 AM
We stopped at the bike shop and were greeted by an older man (we are 58 and 65 and he was older than us). He was charming and helpful. There must be 2 different people involved here.


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 -  + I have a question. I am a boy scout planning a trip for my troop in the fall, and I expect about 15 scouts and leaders to come along. We will be biking the trail from st. charles to sedalia, and I was...
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Tim N from Shawnee, KS on 06/05/2007 05:20 PM
I have a question. I am a boy scout planning a trip for my troop in the fall, and I expect about 15 scouts and leaders to come along. We will be biking the trail from st. charles to sedalia, and I was wondering if the service toted bikes as well as people, and how many it can take.

 
Tim N from Shawnee, KS on 06/05/2007 05:20 PM
I have a question. I am a boy scout planning a trip for my troop in the fall, and I expect about 15 scouts and leaders to come along. We will be biking the trail from st. charles to sedalia, and I was wondering if the service toted bikes as well as people, and how many it can take.

 
ET from Columbia on 06/06/2007 05:11 PM
I am nearly certain that Gary Creason can shuttle that many people and bikes.

 
ET from Columbia on 06/06/2007 05:11 PM
I am nearly certain that Gary Creason can shuttle that many people and bikes.

 
Jim from St. Thomas on 06/08/2007 03:21 PM
Tim, Congratulations on planning this adventure. If you will take a bit of advice from someone who has seen several groups of scouts at the end of some of these rides, start your training now. I would start with a couple of 10 mile rides a week for 2 or 3 weeks... then a couple 20s for 2 weeks then maybe a 20 and a 50 in the same week. I'm sure others here may have a better plan but the main thing is to get some time in the seat. Oh...the other thing is to raise your seats so your knees are not hitting you in the chin.

 
Jim from St. Thomas on 06/08/2007 03:21 PM
Tim, Congratulations on planning this adventure. If you will take a bit of advice from someone who has seen several groups of scouts at the end of some of these rides, start your training now. I would start with a couple of 10 mile rides a week for 2 or 3 weeks... then a couple 20s for 2 weeks then maybe a 20 and a 50 in the same week. I'm sure others here may have a better plan but the main thing is to get some time in the seat. Oh...the other thing is to raise your seats so your knees are not hitting you in the chin.


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 -  + On a previous trip, we attempted to eat here, and were told that they were not serving dinner until later (weekday evening).

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kim from independence, mo on 06/07/2007 06:00 PM
On a previous trip, we attempted to eat here, and were told that they were not serving dinner until later (weekday evening).



We biked the Katy over Memorial Weekend, and again attempted to eat here. We walked in about 5:45 on Sunday and found a table. After about 8 minutes someone walked over and asked if we were expecting to be served. When we replied that we were, we were told that they were no longer serving. When we checked their posted hours on the way out, it said they stopped serving at 6 pm on Sundays.



Needless to say, after two attempts, and two refusals to serve us, we will take our business elsewhere.


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 -  + 9/25/06 Amanda is the "Hostess with the mostest". I was met with Lemonade & chocolate chip cookies. The room was very clean & neat with plenty of hot water for a relaxing shower. She went out of...
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G Berger from Vienna VA on 10/03/2006 09:07 PM
9/25/06 Amanda is the "Hostess with the mostest". I was met with Lemonade & chocolate chip cookies. The room was very clean & neat with plenty of hot water for a relaxing shower. She went out of way to accomodate me & two other guests went she drove us into Hermann for diner after we found out the Trailside restraunt in Rhineland closed on Mondays at 5:00PM. I would highly recommend the Doll House for lodging while on the KATY trail.

 
G Berger from Vienna VA on 10/03/2006 09:07 PM
9/25/06 Amanda is the "Hostess with the mostest". I was met with Lemonade & chocolate chip cookies. The room was very clean & neat with plenty of hot water for a relaxing shower. She went out of way to accomodate me & two other guests went she drove us into Hermann for diner after we found out the Trailside restraunt in Rhineland closed on Mondays at 5:00PM. I would highly recommend the Doll House for lodging while on the KATY trail.

 
Paul from St. Clair on 06/07/2007 04:25 PM
I, too, had a wonderful stay at The Doll House B&B. The room was nice and the bed felt great after a near 90-mile ride. I was later than I hoped and Amanda and Jeff were very accommodating. I was the only one there for the night, but Amanda went all out for breakfast--It was GREAT! I highly recommend this B&B!

 
Paul from St. Clair on 06/07/2007 04:25 PM
I, too, had a wonderful stay at The Doll House B&B. The room was nice and the bed felt great after a near 90-mile ride. I was later than I hoped and Amanda and Jeff were very accommodating. I was the only one there for the night, but Amanda went all out for breakfast--It was GREAT! I highly recommend this B&B!

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