Transportation
-  + We want to drop our car in St Charles and get somehow back to Clinton to begin our bike trip. Enterprise doesn’t allow one way rentals there and UHaul is $400. Any other ideas? It would be on a Satu...
Discussion started 04/18/2022 11:22 AM by Upward - 6 replies (last reply by R Bruce W LAUBACH at 04/21/2022 09:37 AM)Upward from Tulsa on 04/18/2022 11:22 AM
We want to drop our car in St Charles and get somehow back to Clinton to begin our bike trip. Enterprise doesn’t allow one way rentals there and UHaul is $400. Any other ideas? It would be on a Saturday. Also recommendation on where to leave car and where to stay in Clinton?
Rich from Saint charles on 04/18/2022 11:43 AM
Call Bike Stop cafe they have shuttle service
Bill in Houston from Houston on 04/18/2022 01:48 PM
I don't know any specifics, but Amtrak goes to Sedalia.
TC from Tucson on 04/18/2022 07:53 PM
Recommend Country Inn & Suites. Might be able to leave car in their parking garage during your trip. I also recommend the Bike Stop Cafe for transportation needs.
Upward from Tulsa on 04/19/2022 05:11 PM
According to st Charles police it’s illegal to park overnight at the trailhead. Recommendation where to park?
Bill in Houston from Houston on 04/20/2022 01:47 PM
Ask your hotel about parking in their lot.
R Bruce W LAUBACH from Williamsburg on 04/21/2022 09:37 AM
When I rode the trail last May, I stayed a night at the Best Western near the trail in St. Charles. They let me leave my truck there while I was on the trail. for approximately 11 days. I just needed to sign a waiver and leave the truck in a far part of the parking lot. I had a reservation for my return night, but I got in a day or so earlier and canceled the final night's stay. Weekends may be hard to get reservations because of the nearby casino, but middle of the week reservations are easy to make.
June Katy Trail Ride
-  + Where can I find more info on the Katy Trail Ride in June? (Dates, direction, cost, registration, etc?)
Discussion started 04/17/2022 03:35 PM by Tim Scott - 1 reply (last reply by Jerry Whittle at 04/18/2022 08:18 AM)Tim Scott from Lowry City, MO on 04/17/2022 03:35 PM
Where can I find more info on the Katy Trail Ride in June? (Dates, direction, cost, registration, etc?)
Jerry Whittle from Belleville on 04/18/2022 08:18 AM
The Katy Trail Ride sponsored by the Missouri DNR is no more. However there are other groups with rides throughout the year. I'm signed up for Big BAM on the Katy in October and with Bubba's Pampered Pedalers in September. There are other rides advertised on this web site and you could google for others.
River Rails and Trails Museum and Visitors Center
-  + Noticed when doing a trip planner and adding in historical/places of interest that the River, Rails and Trails Museum and Visitors Center located in Boonville right next to the Depot does not come up ...
Discussion started 04/12/2022 08:57 AM by Carlidin - 1 reply (last reply by Ray (webmaster) at 04/13/2022 10:05 AM)Carlidin from Boonville on 04/12/2022 08:57 AM
Noticed when doing a trip planner and adding in historical/places of interest that the River, Rails and Trails Museum and Visitors Center located in Boonville right next to the Depot does not come up on the list. This is an awesome stop on the trail in Boonville with a great museum, water, bathrooms, snacks and cool rest area. Please add to your listing. Thanks
Ray (webmaster) on 04/13/2022 10:05 AM
Thank you for pointing that out! I have added the
River, Rails & Trails Museum to the Boonville listings.
St Charles Riverpointe Development
-  + From a local news source
"With a 30-acre riverside lake, the new waterfront stretching between the Ameristar casino and the Family Arena would be lined with office space, retail, hotels and resident...
Discussion started 03/20/2022 04:41 PM by Ollie - 5 replies (last reply by dkhbike at 04/10/2022 04:39 PM)Ollie from St Charles County on 03/20/2022 04:41 PM
From a local news source
"With a 30-acre riverside lake, the new waterfront stretching between the Ameristar casino and the Family Arena would be lined with office space, retail, hotels and residential developments"
If cyclists don't watch this project we could see bad effects on the trail. I mean like having 25 new places where cars turn across your path, for instance. I remember how the new soccer fields in nearby Creve Coeur Park ruined one of the mixed use trails there (IMO). I am guessing cycling is close to the last thing considered in these projects.
Jerry from Belleville on 03/22/2022 07:37 AM
A quick google found this: The Katy Trail will be raised to above the 100-year flood elevation, and re-routed along the perimeter of the site, removing vehicular crossings.
Ollie from St Charles County on 03/22/2022 11:32 AM
Funny I found no such information on my google search. Plans aren't final yet. The developer's website is one page with no information.
Jerry from Belleville on 03/22/2022 02:06 PM
https://www.riverpointe-stc.com/faq
Ollie from St Charles County on 03/24/2022 11:14 AM
What they say now may not be what they do later. We need to watch this.
dkhbike from St Charles on 04/10/2022 04:39 PM
I stopped using the Katy Trail in St Charles some time ago because of the horrible maintenance of the natural setting.
Salt Creek Bridge Replacement
-  + According to a Facebook post by Eric Lidholm, replacement of the Salt Creek Bridge starts on October 4th with the removal of the old bridge. The new bridge is schedule to open in May 2022. Eric is an ...
Discussion started 10/01/2021 03:32 PM by Jerry Whittle - 6 replies (last reply by Doe at 04/09/2022 06:27 PM)Jerry Whittle from Belleville on 10/01/2021 03:32 PM
According to a Facebook post by Eric Lidholm, replacement of the Salt Creek Bridge starts on October 4th with the removal of the old bridge. The new bridge is schedule to open in May 2022. Eric is an engineer on the project and an avid Katy Trail rider.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/499221650808158/?multi_permalinks=960202088043443¬if_id=1632914849423244¬if_t=group_highlights&ref=notif
ArkyKenny on 10/02/2021 06:59 PM
Good info! Thanks.
Bill in Houston from Houston on 10/04/2021 11:31 AM
Great news!
TC from Tucson on 03/11/2022 09:31 AM
Any updates concerning the Salt Creek Bridge Replacement? Thanks
Doe from Columbia on 04/09/2022 06:26 PM
Salt Creek Bridge is in place!! Not quite ready to ride on yet but it's getting there ??
Doe from Columbia on 04/09/2022 06:27 PM
Salt Creek Bridge is in place!! Not quite ready to ride on yet but it's getting there ??
Doe from Columbia on 04/09/2022 06:27 PM
Salt Creek Bridge is in place!! Not quite ready to ride on yet but it's getting there!!
H. S. Clay House in Augusta
-  + I need to send a big shout out for HS Clay House B & B in Augusta...really charming, well maintained old house, well located, Kelly and Ric who run it are amazing breakfast cooks and extremely graciou...
Discussion started 04/07/2022 10:41 AM by Heather - 0 repliesHeather from Boulder, CO on 04/07/2022 10:41 AM
I need to send a big shout out for HS Clay House B & B in Augusta...really charming, well maintained old house, well located, Kelly and Ric who run it are amazing breakfast cooks and extremely gracious and friendly hosts, went the extra mile to accomodate us and make us enjoy our stay, and I would absolutely stay there again and recommend it.
Equipment Recommendation
-  + Bigger is better, but can I ride a rode bike with 28mm tires on the Katy?
Discussion started 04/04/2022 02:16 PM - 4 replies (last reply by brad wilson at 04/05/2022 02:59 PM)Anonymous from Geneva Illinois on 04/04/2022 02:16 PM
Bigger is better, but can I ride a rode bike with 28mm tires on the Katy?
Jack from Ohio on 04/04/2022 03:52 PM
If it is dry. My son rode 32's and was fine on a dry Katy. Absolutely miserable on a wet Rock Island. The Katy is in better shape than the RI but I suspect you'd have trouble if it is really wet.
Anonymous on 04/04/2022 08:48 PM
Bigger is not always better. We’ve ridden the Katy with 28 slicks on the tandem several times. Stay in the track out of the loose chat and you’ll be fine.
Jerry Whittle from Belleville on 04/05/2022 10:49 AM
I've ridden parts of the Katy on 700x25 road tires and didn't like it. I've ridden the entire Katy 8 times on 700x32 tires and they were adequate.
A couple of years ago did the same thing on 26x2.125 tires with some knobby tread on a tandem and it was OK. Did the GAP and muddy C&O last year on the same bike.
However last October I rode between Clinton and Boonville on 650b x 47 tires and it didn't work out too well even though those tires are pretty fat. The tires were slicks and it was extremely mushy from lots of rain. Lots of slipping and sliding. The next time I'll have some more aggressive tread on that bike.
brad wilson from st louis on 04/05/2022 02:59 PM
I agree with Jack and Jerry.
A little more width with a little tread will help you through the possible trail conditions you might encounter. Muddy, rocky, loose, cracked, etc.
Also, if your bike has no suspension, a larger tire will give you a little more cushioning. Sometimes the trail is broken and rutted due to runoff, heavy equipment traffic, rock slides, fallen branches, etc.
Chilhowee City Park in Chilhowee
-  + Is there any trees to hang a hammock in the Park? It's hard to tell on the satellite view on the map? I'm wanting to do a overnight trip and just want to see if I can bring my hammock or the tent. Tha...
Discussion started 03/30/2022 06:18 PM by Matt Finch - 3 replies (last reply by Jim at 04/04/2022 03:07 PM)Matt Finch from Lees Summit on 03/30/2022 06:18 PM
Is there any trees to hang a hammock in the Park? It's hard to tell on the satellite view on the map? I'm wanting to do a overnight trip and just want to see if I can bring my hammock or the tent. Thanks in advance for any information!
Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins from Windsor on 03/31/2022 06:04 AM
Matt you might call the nice folks at the Hometown Convenience Store and visit with them
Mark from Lee's Summit on 03/31/2022 07:05 PM
They have two tent camping areas marked out with PVC pipes with each area having a little bit of gravel to level off the ground and a fire pit in the corner. There is also a picnic table and about 15 feet away there are a few medium to large trees that aren't really pruned back, but you could tie off a hammock if you wanted to. They do a good job mowing back an area that is probably 100' by 200' so there is a bunch of extra room. I would never complain about free camping, but I will point out that you are in the middle of town so there are dogs barking, roosters crowing, and various other sounds all night long. The corner store is great to have when it is open, but only having a Johnny on the Spot at the trailhead is a downer. If you really want a close up picture of the campsite area then let me know and I can probably dig it up.
Jim from KC on 04/04/2022 03:07 PM
I hammock camp in Chilhowee a couple times a year. It's a great stop. Bring a couple dog treats and be ready to play fetch!