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Scooter riding on Katy Trail?

Bob from St. Charles on 05/19/2006 01:11 PM

Does anyone know if 2 wheeled scooters are allowed on the Katy trail? I know push scooters might be allowed but does anyone know if electric or gas powered scooters can be run on the trail?

I was wondering if they can be used on the extension between Creve Coeur Lake and St. Charles as well.

Bob

sbikes from kansas city on 05/19/2006 02:56 PM

No. Motorized vehicles are prohibited on the Trail unless they are for persons with disabilities.

See below from the DNR website:

Permitted Uses

Katy Trail State Park has been designed specifically for bicyclists and hikers. The majority of the trail is accessible to persons with disabilities. Segments of the trail that exceed a 5-percent grade or a 2-percent cross slope are indicated on the map. All motorized equipment is prohibited except official and emergency vehicles. Electrically assisted pedal-powered bicycles and tricycles (maximum speed of 20 mph) as well as electrically powered-mobility devices for persons with disabilities such as motorized wheelchairs and scooters are allowed. No hunting or discharging of firearms is allowed. All state park rules apply and are posted at trailheads. The trail is open only during daylight hours. HORSES ARE PERMITTED ONLY ON THE WESTERN SECTION FROM THE STATE FAIRGROUNDS IN SEDALIA TO CALHOUN.

Bob from St. Charles on 05/19/2006 03:12 PM

Thanks for the follow-up.

Bob

Randy from O'fallon on 03/06/2019 07:28 AM

How about a buying permit for a 49cc/50cc for night time riding on the Katy trail ? (After dark until daylight).
NOTHING BIGGER than a 50cc. randy1960@live.com

Anonymous on 03/06/2019 12:38 PM

How much do you want for one?

Rex McCall from Springfield, MO on 03/08/2019 08:58 AM

According to the park website, only electrically assisted pedal-powered bicycles and tricycles are allowed (no more than 20 mph). Also, those with disabilities may use electric golf carts and Segways. Gas-powered vehicles are not allowed.

Marna from Boonville on 03/13/2019 07:45 AM

If you are talking about Kick Scooters, YES! Katy is a great place to take a Scooter on.

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Trail conditions

Drifter from Eldon on 03/10/2019 12:44 PM

What condition is the trail in? 3/10/19 wanting to do a short out and back but concerned the trail will be soft do to the recent rains. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Drifter

Anonymous on 03/10/2019 02:03 PM

I'd guess its frozen.

Doug from Bluffton on 03/10/2019 02:52 PM

It's not frozen. West of me is soft in several places but rideable on wide tires east is much better but still has soft spots of 100 yards or so. This is for 15 miles either side of Bluffton and probably the same for other sections along the river. Might be more firm when you get away from the bottoms

Doug from Bluffton on 03/10/2019 05:27 PM

There are two large trees down blocking the trail about MM 107. Not hard to get around them on hwy 94

Doug from Bluffton on 03/11/2019 08:57 PM

They cleared those trees today

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3-Day Ride

Don Phelps from Tullaoma, TN on 03/09/2019 09:55 PM

I do not have enough time to ride the entire trail during the first week of May. We can probably manage 35 miles per day on our bikes loaded as they will be for camping, and given our physical conditioning. What 100 mile section of the KATY would be the most picturesque and interesting for two oldsters in our 70's?

Bryan from Austin Texas on 03/10/2019 01:11 AM

I suggest Boonville to Hermann/McKittrick. In 2017 we rode from Lee's Summit to Pleasant Hill to pick pick up the Rock Island trail and from there to Windsor on day 1. We then rode to Boonville on day 2, Jefferson City (with side trip to Columbia) on day 3, Hermann on day 4, and St Charles on day 5. I was a great trip. There are plenty of rest stops and towns along the way each day.

James Gang from Kearney, MO on 03/10/2019 05:55 AM

We rode Sedalia to Jefferson City in 3 days and was very comfortable. A lot of the Trail is shaded and is along the scenic Missouri River with beautiful bluffs. Probably could have done more but was our first time and not sure how we would do.

Trigirl262 from Memphis on 03/10/2019 10:49 AM

Our first time riding the Katy Trail this past October, we rode 140 miles over 4 days from St. Charles to Rhineland, We averaged about 35 miles a day and it was manageable was for the four of us. You could start in St. Charles and bike to Hermann. We all loved the route from the views, path, and it was never crowded. Since we enjoyed the ride so much, in early April we are doing another section of about 100 miles over 3 days from Hermann to Jefferson City, and then ride west for another 30 miles or so, then back to Jefferson City. Enjoy!

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Lee's Summit

NANOOK from Wildwood on 03/06/2019 10:11 AM

I'm taking the Amtrak west to start my trip doing the Katy Trail. Can I get off the train in Lee's Summit? Thanks

NANOOK from Wildwood on 03/06/2019 10:11 AM

I'm taking the Amtrak west to start my trip doing the Katy Trail. Can I get off the train in Lee's Summit? Thanks

Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins, Windsor from Windsor on 03/06/2019 10:45 AM

You can get off the train in Lee's Summit. You can either take roads or get a ride the distance to Pleasant Hill trailhead of the Rock Island Spur of the Katy Trail, if that's your plan.

Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins, Windsor from Windsor on 03/06/2019 10:45 AM

You can get off the train in Lee's Summit. You can either take roads or get a ride the distance to Pleasant Hill trailhead of the Rock Island Spur of the Katy Trail, if that's your plan.

Bryan from Austin Texas on 03/10/2019 08:19 AM

The Amtrak does stop at Lee's Summit. In 2017 we started in Lee's Summit and returned via Amtrak at Kirkwood station. There is a fairly easy 17 or so mile rode route from Pleasant Hill to Lee's Summit.

Bryan from Austin Texas on 03/10/2019 08:19 AM

Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins, Windsor from Windsor on 03/10/2019 08:55 AM

I forgot I had saved this route from a friend in Lee's Summit. He's ridden it many times and feels the best way.

Take the 13.6 mile route through Greenwood Missouri. BUT stay south on Allendale Rd. Follow that road till 175th St. It will change names a few times. Turn left or East on 175th. That will take you straight to Pleasant Hill. Cross the tracks and turn right onto the trail. That will take you to Pleasant Hill and on your way East to Windsor.

Hope this helps and you have a great trip!

Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins, Windsor from Windsor on 03/10/2019 08:55 AM

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Tornado risk in mid-May?

NCW from I live in Denver but I'm from Lenexa, KS on 03/07/2019 12:00 PM

Hi all! This might be a weird / paranoid question, but I'm thinking of cycling the entire Katy and Rock Island trails in mid to late May. I grew up in the Kansas City area, but I've been out of tornado alley for more than 20 years now, and so I've forgotten about how much of a risk they pose. Will there potentially be tons of storms and/or tornados during this time period? Would May be a good month to ride or would it be better to wait until autumn?

Anonymous on 03/07/2019 01:04 PM

We all don't just stay in the basement in May. Most of us are normal functioning human beings and only take cover if there is a weather event that mandates doing so. Portable weather radios are nice to take along during times of inclement weather.

Allen from Shawnee on 03/07/2019 03:39 PM

Severe weather events just usually last a few hours. I don’t believe I would make or change plans based on likely hood of this. There is cell service on almost all of the Katy so weather info is readily s ailable.

Allen from Shawnee on 03/07/2019 03:43 PM

Sorry available. Seems to me no way to edit a post.

NCW from I live in Denver but I'm from Lenexa, KS on 03/08/2019 08:14 AM

Thanks, Allen! I didn't know if there was cell service, so this helps.

Anonymous - having grown up in KC I'm well aware that people don't hide in basements all spring and summer, I was just wondering what people would think about doing this in May and whether or not it made sense to wait.

Thanks again!

John Hutchins from Pacific on 03/09/2019 05:42 AM

I've ridden the entire trail in May twice with no weather problems. But, being retired I have the opportunity to watch the weather forecast and go when a window of good weather is forecast. If you have to pick a date certain in advance you have a good chance of getting rained on in May, but tornadoes are pretty rare.

I am considering riding the trail for a few days again this May as a shake out for a longer trip.

Kathleen from Oolitic on 03/09/2019 04:45 PM

My dad and I rode end to end at the end of May beginning of June last year. We were lucky and didn't have a bad weather during the day, except for extreme heat. We also had cell reception the entire trip. I just checked the weather every morning before we hit the trail. Have a great trip!!

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Trail at Eldon, MO

Dimond from Osage Beach on 03/05/2019 09:23 PM

Hello, I am just finding out about this trail. I am new to central Missouri. I have a few questions about this trail and the Katy trail. If I can get help I would appreciate it.

Is the trail marked in Eldon? I live 30 min south of Eldon and would like to take a look at the trail and make plans for a ride.
Does anyone know if they allow you to camp near either trail? Or is there no camping allowed on either trail?

Thank you.

KB LS from Lee's Summit on 03/07/2019 03:18 PM

To the best of my knowledge and I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, the Rock Island trail from Windsor east is still hung up in Missouri legislature over funding. The Rock Island from Windsor to Pleasant Hill is open and nice to ride. Also the portion from Lee's Summit to Raytown will open this spring. My suggestion to you to research the KATY Trail and where the nearest trail head is for you. It is a very nice trail to ride.

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reservations necessary?

Linda from Fort Collins, CO on 09/25/2010 01:44 AM

My husband and I plan to ride from Clinton to St. Charles @ Oct.8-13, 2010. Is it necessary to make overnight accommodations ahead of time for the entire route? Or could we call ahead one day and find a motel/B&B with out difficulty?

Anonymous on 09/25/2010 11:20 AM

I don't like to be limited to firm reservations, so I never book ahead, always figure I can get a place in Sedalia, Jeff, Hermann, etc. Take a list of the B&B's with you and call after lunch, when your journey for the day is more defined. Never had a problem getting a room. Hint.. Stay at a B&B that is as closed to the trail as you can find.

Trek on 09/25/2010 02:01 PM

October is a pretty popular month it seems.....last chance to get the

end of the year rides in, Fall color, Fall festivals (Chestnut Festival

in New Franklin), Oktober Fest in Hermann. We always make reservations

ahead of time, especially in the Fall. Yes, you have to ride to make the

reservation and keep on schedule, but it sure beats finding out at the

last minute that everything is booked. Phone coverage on the trail can

be spotty at best. We skip the afternoon drama and book ahead of time.

MidSouth from Rogersville, MO on 09/25/2010 06:57 PM

The Pumpkin Fest is in Hartsburg Oct 8-10. Could be hard finding a room close to there that weekend.

Anonymous on 09/27/2010 10:13 AM

Generally, it's much easier to find off-the-cuff lodging during the week and/or in the larger towns having more than one motel.

This situation is especially true in the "wine" country on the eastern end of the trail, where the city folks from Springfield, Jeff-City, St Charles, and all the towns along I-70 converge on the B&B's for weekend dinners and shows.

Also, right now, anything near Hermann is probabaly booked for their Oktoberfest. Still, part of the fun is playing it by ear while on the trail. But it wouldn't hurt to book ahead in the busy areas.

Anonymous on 09/27/2010 12:47 PM

Universiy of Missouri football game weekends often fill open space in Boonville B&B's and motels too.

Michael Rodemeyer from Hartsburg on 09/28/2010 05:56 PM

Actually the Hartsburg Pumpkin Festival is October 9 and 10; but preparation for the festival is 2 or 3 days prior and rooms are hard to come by. Please stop in and enjoy the festival anyway. This is our 19th fest and if the weather is good we could have 40,000 to 55,000 people over the two days.

Kriss from Boonville on 09/28/2010 09:54 PM

Hi Linda,

I lived in Fort Collins in 1980! Beautiful Town. We now live in Boonville, and own a B&B, High Street Victorian! We get filled up pretty quickly in Oct. It's our busiest month. As a B&B owner, I'd suggest you make a reservation if you want to be sure you have a place to stay.

Good luck.

El Toro on 09/30/2010 02:21 AM

Based on my experience, I would not head out on that trip in October without reservations. That's just my 2 cents.

Leanne from Georgetown, TX on 03/03/2019 09:32 AM

two of us plan to pannier ride the Katy Trail first week of May. Think we need to get reservations ahead of time?

Jim from St. Thomas on 03/03/2019 02:01 PM

We always make reservations. Don’t want to be riding extra miles at the end of the day to try and find something.

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St. Charles to Machens

MoJo from NW Arkansas on 02/28/2019 03:00 PM

In researching a Katy trip, it appears most "whole" trail trips go from Clinton to St. Charles, not Clinton to Machens. Why? And if we were to ride to Machens, is there a convenient place near the trail head for our pickup driver to park while waiting for us to arrive? Thanks!

Anonymous on 03/01/2019 07:49 AM

It's because the Machens endpoint is remote with nothing there amenity wise. Some ride on to Machens so they can say they did and others terminate in St. Charles where there are hotels, B&B's, restaurants, parking, etc.

Jerry Whittle from Belleville IL on 03/01/2019 10:16 AM

St. Charles to Machens and back is somewhat boring. It does get right next to the Missouri River in a few places but mostly out in farm land. One of the places near the river is often flooded and the trail is closed there (around MM 35). I ride it at least once a year just to say that I did.

Finding the Machens trailhead is a little difficult. You might just want to ride back to St. Charles or to the easier to find Black Walnut trailhead.

The signups for the 2019 Katy Trail Ride in June starts today and often fills up fast. I'm signed up.
https://mostateparks.com/2019ktride

David R Wallace from Weldon Spring on 03/02/2019 08:31 PM

So glad I finally crossed Machens off the bucket list last year. Now, when someone brags about their "end-to-end" ride, I get to say "but did you go to Machens"? (it's exhilarating)

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Overnight Bike Parking

MoJo from NW Arkansas on 02/28/2019 05:57 PM

Do hotels let you bring your bike into your room? If not, how do people secure their bikes at night? Thanks!

Anonymous on 03/01/2019 07:47 AM

Some do.....some don't. You'll have to inquire with the specific location to find out what their policy is. We've secured our bikes by locking them on the bike rack on the car in the parking lot, left them in secure storage at the hotel front desk, put them in a secure storage area, and have brought them to our room. Just ask, they'll let you know what their policy is.

Adam Cooper from White Hall, IL on 03/01/2019 10:25 PM

The Tru by Hilton in St Charles was very accommodating to our small group of riders. The rooms are small but we still managed to fit four bikes and four people into one room with minimal issues. Just call ahead first to give them a heads up.

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