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 -  + Looking to purchase a new e-bike in the early Spring. I've not owned one previously. I'm not interested in an on-line purchase. I've done quite a bit of research. I have a shop in mind. Models I'...
Discussion started 12/02/24 12:14:28 PM by Bill R. - 1 reply (last reply by John Hutchins at 12/03/24 1:22:34 PM)
Bill R. from Wentzville on 12/02/24 12:14:28 PM
Looking to purchase a new e-bike in the early Spring. I've not owned one previously. I'm not interested in an on-line purchase. I've done quite a bit of research. I have a shop in mind. Models I've researched are: Denago; Specialized; Giant; and Aventon. I ride quite a bit. I'm looking for a pedal-assist. I ride the KATY mostly and I've seen all of the aforementioned models on my rides. Anyone have any first-hand knowledge? Mid-drive vs. hub-drive seems to be the wild card. Thank you.

 
John Hutchins from PACIFIC on 12/03/24 1:22:34 PM
I bought a Trek ebike last year and love it. I live in the St Louis area and bought and had it shipped from a shop in Ashville NC because they had the one I wanted. The dealer said you can't go wrong with a bike from what he called the big three, Trek, Specialized and Giant. I have a Bosch hub motor which would always be my choice over a hub drive. But I'm not sure it matters that much. FWIW, Yamaha is getting out of ebikes in the US and has some great deals right now. I was very close to buying a Yamaha but backed off because their dealer network is weak to non-existent for ebikes. But they make great bikes with good components. You might want to look into those and maybe talk to a LBS about taking care of it when needed.


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Safe overnight parking in St. Charles
 -  + Looking for safe overnight parking in St. Charles. Comfort Inn & Suites? Suggestions?
Discussion started 11/30/24 1:06:11 PM by Hiker Largo - 2 replies (last reply by Anne Reed at 12/02/24 9:24:34 AM)
Hiker Largo from Columbus,Indiana on 11/30/24 1:06:11 PM
Looking for safe overnight parking in St. Charles. Comfort Inn & Suites? Suggestions?

 
Scotty Mac from OKC on 12/01/24 10:02:46 AM
Country Inn & Suites is a great place to stay. Ive stayed there twice after completing the ride.
It’s clean, safe, the staff was friendly and its right by the trail. Included breakfast is pretty good too!

 
Anne Reed from Phoenix on 12/02/24 9:24:34 AM
Oh yes. Country Inn. Every year, every time. The best people and place. Safest parking.


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Turner Shelter Winter Reservations
 -  +  The Turner Katy Trail Shelter in Tebbetts has been closed to walk-in traffic for the winter. Bikers wanting to stay at the shelter will need to contact the office a week in advance.
Discussion started 11/27/24 4:53:57 PM by Jim - 0 replies
Jim from St. Thomas on 11/27/24 4:53:57 PM
The Turner Katy Trail Shelter in Tebbetts has been closed to walk-in traffic for the winter. Bikers wanting to stay at the shelter will need to contact the office a week in advance.


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Weather/Best time of year to do the entire trail?
 -  + Any advise on the best time of year to bike the entire trail from St. Louis to KC?
Discussion started 11/24/24 8:28:41 PM by Burke on Bike - 7 replies (last reply by Cathy from Churchill at 11/27/24 12:20:38 AM)
Burke on Bike from San Diego, CA on 11/24/24 8:28:41 PM
Any advise on the best time of year to bike the entire trail from St. Louis to KC?

 
patrick from Overland park ks on 11/25/24 7:39:31 AM
mid october

 
Scotty Mac from OKC on 11/25/24 7:50:34 AM
Indeed, I've ridden the Katy twice, both in mid to late October. Beautiful weather. During the last few days of the end of October ride in '23 we did get a little rain and it got a little chilly. But, overall, it was great weather.

 
Jerry Whittle from O'Fallon Illinois on 11/25/24 9:28:48 AM
I've ridden the trail 11 times end-to-end. June mostly and it was hot and sometimes wet.

Mid-October was OK except it was wet and one morning there was frost on the tent.

The one time that I rode in September, there was one morning that was cool and very foggy. Other than that, perfect. Of course YMMV.

 
Deby Elliott from Dallas on 11/26/24 6:21:03 AM
For my, September (or May) is better than October, but of course every year varies. The problem with waiting until October - well there's a couple of problems. First and foremost is once the leaves really start falling they cover the trail entirely. If there is any moisture they get a little slick. But the worst part is they cover the inevitable cracks and ridges in the trail, so you are riding blind to the surface you are on. I found this messed tremendously with my confidence as a rider. The other main reason is that Octoberfest time brings in so many people, and I prefer a quieter rather than party like atmosphere.

 
Bill R. from Wentzville on 11/26/24 6:56:12 AM
Deby, You are spot on. If you're trying to maintain a pace, then it can affect that a lot. I find myself slowing markedly when I can't see the actual trail surface. Hitting a layer of wet leaves can easily dump your bike thus ruining your ride by either injury or bike damage or both. I don't mind the heat so I ride all season long. Happy trails.

 
Burke on Bike from San Diego,CA on 11/26/24 3:26:48 PM
Thank you everyone for your replies! Sounds like Sept or early Oct is best. May sounds like a viable choice as well. I'm planning the trip for next year and so will probably go in May since I don't want to wait till the fall for my annual bike trip.

 
Cathy from Churchill from Churchill, PA on 11/27/24 12:20:38 AM
Another thing about riding the Katy Trail in September and October is that if you are planning to stay in B&Bs, Air B&Bs in local towns or hotels in the vicinity of Columbia you might be competing with people coming in for football games. And if there is a big game the same weekend as Oktober Fest or the Hartsburg Pumpkin Fest, then it's even more challenging to find a place to stay.

May is good. There can be some rainy weather, and even temperatures in the 50s and 60s. But if you wear layers and have rain gear you'll be fine. There won't be as many people on the Katy, and the leaf problem others mentioned won't be an issue.

Enjoy planning your ride, and doing your ride. It's a wonderful trail, the best I've ridden.


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 -  + Hi, this is for Ray, the webmaster. Can you add a forum to the Paul Bunyan Trail and NETT websites? I have researched both trails and found a few current but mainly older reviews. It would be great to...
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Cindy Q from Fort Worth on 11/26/24 8:11:26 AM
Hi, this is for Ray, the webmaster. Can you add a forum to the Paul Bunyan Trail and NETT websites? I have researched both trails and found a few current but mainly older reviews. It would be great to be able to get up-to-date feedback on the conditions of the trails.


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Lime trail effect on chain
 -  + Hello, Can anyone give me info on what effects the wet or dry lime trail had on their chain? Did you get a buildup? Did you have any problems? I’m guessing it’s a good idea to clean your chain every...
Discussion started 11/23/24 2:27:16 PM by LU - 2 replies (last reply by John Hutchins at 11/24/24 3:28:50 PM)
LU from California on 11/23/24 2:27:16 PM
Hello,
Can anyone give me info on what effects the wet or dry lime trail had on their chain? Did you get a buildup? Did you have any problems? I’m guessing it’s a good idea to clean your chain every day. Thx!

 
Jerry Whittle from O'Fallon Illinois on 11/24/24 1:50:59 PM
Both are rough on a chain. If it's wet, cleaning and lubing daily might help. If dry, I'd just clean and lube it once halfway through if you're doing the entire trail.

I recommend putting on a cheaper new chain shortly before the trip. Then just replacing the chain shortly after the end. That's what I've done a few times including twice on a tandem. The tandem is like changing three chains.

 
John Hutchins from PACIFIC on 11/24/24 3:28:50 PM
If it's dusty you will get limestone dust on your chain. Probably not much of a problem this time of year. I've never bothered to clean my chain on a Katy ride, with no problems. But others might feel differently.


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Native American Petroglyphs in Huntsdale
 -  + Two of the pictographs in question were still there in 2010 when I rode the KATY often, then. Yet, they were small and hard to find visually. Recently, however, on June 29th, 2023, I rode the Rochp...
Discussion started 06/30/23 9:57:02 AM by JD - 9 replies (last reply by JD at 11/23/24 10:20:08 AM)
JD from Shawnee, KS on 06/30/23 9:57:02 AM
Two of the pictographs in question were still there in 2010 when I rode the KATY often, then. Yet, they were small and hard to find visually.

Recently, however, on June 29th, 2023, I rode the Rochport/Huntsdale section to discover these pictographs no longer exist. To me it looks like large slap-layers of rock from the face of this bluff have fallen. The face of this bluff no longer looks like it did 13-years ago.

Probably a combination of fading paint and fallen rock caused their demise.

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 06/30/23 11:00:01 AM
Sad to hear that they are gone.

 
JD from Shawnee, KS on 07/02/23 11:23:06 AM
Yeah. The red/orange upside-down eyebrow with a dot above it on the far-left side of the bluff appears to have fallen with a large slap of rock. Not sure what happened to the black one on the far-right side of it. Sad.

 
anonymous on 07/02/23 12:20:49 PM
A slap of rock?

 
JD from Shawnee, KS on 07/08/23 11:59:40 AM
Yes. These limestone bluffs are known for their falling rocks. In fact, trail signage encourages users to keep moving while under them to avoid being hit by falling rocks.

If you look at the Big Moniteau Bluff's face today, it looks like its missing rocks fall in layers six to 10-inches thick. You can see the rough edges of slab-like missing rocks.

This bluff has lost lots of rock. Its rough looking crevices have almost disappeared.

 
anonymous on 07/09/23 9:34:16 AM
I see….now they are slabs. Not a geologist here so thought there was a distinguishable difference between a slap of rock and a slab of rock. I see now that they are slabs so it’s not a geological difference.

 
JD from Shawnee, KS on 08/30/23 10:03:21 AM
Yeah. Slabs of rock.

 
Kdbilyeu from Columbia, MO on 09/02/23 7:11:15 PM
I rode my bike by there today and saw the amazon looking pictograph clearly. I wasn’t sure they would be visible with the foliage on the trees, but they were almost as visible as when I rode by in early April. So don’t despair yet!

 
anonymous on 09/04/23 1:36:07 PM
Interesting. Am wondering why it was reported that they were no longer there.

Guessing they are there and someone just couldn’t see them and assumed they were no longer there.

 
JD from Shawnee on 11/23/24 10:19:59 AM
Actually, these painted pictographs are now gone. In fact, the whole face of this bluff is much smoother, now, from past recent years. Quite a bit of rock has fallen from it.

Cycle Inn in Hermann
 -  + Are bikes welcome in the rooms?
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Channabilly from Channahon on 11/22/24 6:14:55 PM
Are bikes welcome in the rooms?


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Car Parking
 -  + Hello All: We are planning to take the train from Kirkwood to Sedalia in early October. Is there anywhere to park a car near the train station in Kirkwood? Or should we park in St Charles and bike...
Discussion started 09/06/15 8:51:18 AM by jim - 3 replies (last reply by Hiker Largo at 11/22/24 12:19:52 PM)
jim from western springs il on 09/06/15 8:51:18 AM
Hello All: We are planning to take the train from Kirkwood to Sedalia in early October. Is there anywhere to park a car near the train station in Kirkwood? Or should we park in St Charles and bike down to Kirkwood? Thanks for your help.

 
Anonymous from StL on 09/06/15 6:40:54 PM
Not sure about long term parking at the Kirkwood station but I do know that it would be a long ride from St. Charles. Also, in my my opinion dangerous. Lots of busy roads and highways. I wouldn't want to do it but maybe there's a shuttle that would take you.

 
Jim from Western Springs on 09/07/15 10:28:53 AM
Thanks for your response. I have put another question out there about a shuttle.

 
Hiker Largo from Columbus, Indiana on 11/22/24 12:19:52 PM
We are going to drive to St. Charles from Indiana, park, then shuttle to Clinton and ride back to St. Charles. Is there a safe place to leave the car in St. Charles?


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Happy Trails Katy-ring Service in Tebbetts
 -  + Like Geo from Bentonville, we also ordered lunch from Rachel. It was more food than I expected, and it was really nice to sit still at the trailhead and eat a balanced, healthy meal. Such a welcome ...
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Bill in Columbia (was Houston) on 11/18/24 9:01:59 PM
Like Geo from Bentonville, we also ordered lunch from Rachel. It was more food than I expected, and it was really nice to sit still at the trailhead and eat a balanced, healthy meal. Such a welcome break from trail mix and granola bars.


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Lazy Liz Horse & RV Campground in Sedalia
 -  + This was the best campground along the Katy Trail! For a mere $10/person we were able to camp (in a popup camper on our truck) near the "bath house" where there are 2 showers as well as FREE laundry f...
Discussion started 11/05/24 12:52:26 PM by Teri Lund - 0 replies
Teri Lund from Laramie, WY on 11/05/24 12:52:26 PM
This was the best campground along the Katy Trail! For a mere $10/person we were able to camp (in a popup camper on our truck) near the "bath house" where there are 2 showers as well as FREE laundry facilities. It's situated in a beautiful open field, away from the road so it's really quiet. Liz & her daughter Kelly are super friendly and helpful. I highly recommend Lazy Liz!!!


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Camping for a group of 20+ Scouts?
 -  + My Scouts in Minneapolis decided to bike from Kansas City to St Louis, and we are just starting to plan this Trip for June of 2025. I'm pretty sure we won't come close to making it the whole way, a...
Discussion started 10/31/24 3:38:34 PM by Ted - 4 replies (last reply by Mark at 11/01/24 5:56:37 PM)
Ted from Minneapolis on 10/31/24 3:38:34 PM
My Scouts in Minneapolis decided to bike from Kansas City to St Louis, and we are just starting to plan this Trip for June of 2025.

I'm pretty sure we won't come close to making it the whole way, and part of the planning process will be figuring out where we start, where we stop, and where we camp in between.

I've read through a lot of the reviews about campgrounds, but very few mention any kind of group reference.

Can anyone suggest some campsites that might be good for 20-25 Scouts? We'll have a few shuttle vehicles as well.

Also if anyone has any suggestions for a Scout Troop doing this we'd love to hear it.

 
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 10/31/24 5:03:49 PM
You could start by checking out some organized rides and see when they do their rides and where they camp. One that comes to mind is the bigbamride.com

The Department of Revenue had annual rides in June but they no longer do those.

One thing about riding in June - the daylight is longer but it can also be hotter.

 
Charlie W. @ Katy-Rock Junction from Windsor on 10/31/24 9:15:39 PM
Ted, we have enjoyed hosting Scout troops on many occasions at our campground at Katy-Rock Junction, LLC in Windsor, Mo. We offer a safe, clean, and enjoyable camping experience just a few feet from the Katy Trail with lots of amenities and a Scouts group rate, as well as ample vehicle parking and secure bike storage. We would be delighted if you would consider including a stay at Katy-Rock Junction in your 2025 Scouts cycling adventure. You can reach us at 660-233-1010. Happy Trails!

 
anonymous on 11/01/24 10:51:25 AM
Windsor has an option.

The Katy Roundhouse in New Franklin comes to mind. Have camped there before when a scout group was there also. The Hermann city park and Klondike park may also be options.

The Trip Planner will let you see where camping is available. From there I would contact camp providers directly to discuss the reality of a group of your size using there facility. Reservations and/or info directly from them may prevent the disappointment of just trying to stop in.

Being a Scout myself, I'm a firm believer in the moto "Be Prepared."

 
Mark from Lee's Summit on 11/01/24 5:56:37 PM
In my opinion, you would want to plan for 50 to 60 mile days, so here is my recommendation: Pleasant Hill trailhead on the Rock Island Trail just southeast of Kansas City to Windsor (48 miles and absolutely stay at the Katy-Rock Junction); Windsor to New Franklin (61 miles of rolling hills and stay at the Katy Roundhouse campsite); New Franklin to Tebbetts (57 miles and stay inside at the Turner Shelter with all of their bunkbeds); Tebbetts to Marthasville (54 miles and camp at their Community Club Park); finally Marthasville to St. Charles (40 miles). If you want to ring the bell at the end of the trail in Machens, then that will be another 13 miles and you will then have to double back a few miles to get picked up and load your trailers.


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Main Street Diner in Boonville
 -  + This looked like a great spot but the bike parking structures are around the corner and out of sight. After dealing with a homeless guy with a very aggressive dog on the bridge I didn't want my bike o...
Discussion started 10/12/24 7:40:26 PM by Gregg - 4 replies (last reply at 10/29/24 1:48:24 PM)
Gregg from Kansas on 10/12/24 7:40:26 PM
This looked like a great spot but the bike parking structures are around the corner and out of sight. After dealing with a homeless guy with a very aggressive dog on the bridge I didn't want my bike out of sight while I ate. Maybe next time. They have large front windows. I wish the city would put bike locking structures out front.

 
Deby Elliott from Dallas on 10/12/24 8:19:01 PM
So Sorry to hear that. And you missed a nice lunch. Perhaps if that happens to someone else, they could lock up over at the Frederick Hotel. It is across the street, so that might be too far. But I think you could see it from the front window - not positive about that though.
I get it though, sure don't want to lose your bike!!

 
anonymous on 10/28/24 8:35:29 AM
Just saw a video on YouTube that I believe was yours Gregg. If so, well done.....thanks for taking us along on your journey.

We've eaten on the bench in front of the Main Street Diner. Phoned ahead with our order and they delivered to the bench. Have also locked our bikes together and to the bench which worked well for no longer than we were inside. There is also a light pole right on the corner in front of the restaurant. We've never had any complaints using the bench or the light pole.

Wishing that the city would put a bike locking structure out front begs the question, where else might you stop that you'd think the city should accommodate you?

 
Billy from Yukon,OK on 10/29/24 9:32:20 AM
Can we have the link to the YouTube video?

 
anonymous on 10/29/24 1:48:24 PM
Search Katy Trail on YouTube Billy....there are very few that are recent.


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 -  + Homestretch of Day 6. After the St. Charles stop for lunch, I headed to Machens to ring that terminus bell. It's about 12 miles from St. Charles. As this forum page suggests, there's not much there bu...
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Geo from Bentonville Transplant from Chicagoland on 10/28/24 6:32:33 PM
Homestretch of Day 6. After the St. Charles stop for lunch, I headed to Machens to ring that terminus bell. It's about 12 miles from St. Charles. As this forum page suggests, there's not much there but I had to ride the Trail end to end for it to be official for me. The Trail meanders through tree-lined areas, farm fields, passes some residential areas but other than that, there's no place to stop. I think I remember a sports facility along the way. Black Walnut is a TH but has no amenities so I took my photo and moved on. As the previous poster on this forum mentioned, there is a chain across the road about .25 miles from the Machens TH to the north. I heard that road is not private property so I am not sure why the owner of the chain is allowed to keep riders from being picked up closer to the TH. Maybe it is private but either way, I rode out of the TH on a somewhat hidden human-made trail, turned left then right onto the road and onward to the chained barricade with a no trespassing sign posted. Katy Trail complete! 278 miles and 6 days.


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 -  + October 14, 2024 - 6th and final day. Started in Washington, jumped on the Trail at the Dutzow TH. The journey was ~40 miles. From Washington, there were only a couple of bathroom breaks otherwise it ...
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Geo from Bentonville Transplant from Chicagoland on 10/28/24 6:23:33 PM
October 14, 2024 - 6th and final day. Started in Washington, jumped on the Trail at the Dutzow TH. The journey was ~40 miles. From Washington, there were only a couple of bathroom breaks otherwise it was full speed (13.9 mph average) to St. Charles. I've been to St. Charles and specifically the Bike Stop Cafe because where else does a cyclist go for lunch (even when I am not on a trail ride). I had a tuna melt with vegan chili and a beer which was perfect for the chilly ride that day. I started out at around 46 degrees with no long pants (forgot to pack the right type). My feet never warmed up so that chili hit the spot plus the propane firepit I ate next to was much appreciated. It barely broke 60 degrees that day but I pressed on to Machens after a hearty lunch break. St. Charles is a very touristy town with lots of shops, overnight accommodations, wine bars, restaurants and history information about the Trail. This day it was decked out for Fall and Halloween.


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 -  + October 13th - Day 5 of my Katy Trail Adventure. Washington is ~4 miles from the Dutzow TH. I opted to stay in Washington as I have many times for various events, BBQ and Blues and Winefest. The Hoefe...
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Geo from Bentonville Transplant from Chicagoland on 10/28/24 5:18:46 PM
October 13th - Day 5 of my Katy Trail Adventure. Washington is ~4 miles from the Dutzow TH. I opted to stay in Washington as I have many times for various events, BBQ and Blues and Winefest. The Hoefel House Bike Hostel/B&B was a real treat. The hosts, Kurt and Peggy were made for the hospitality business. Originally planning to stay in a hostel room, I changed my mind and rewarded myself with the Locomotive Suite. Did not disappoint and the service provided by the hosts was nothing short of and better than a 5-star resort. Highly recommend and worth the extra miles off the trail. I recommend the Augusta Bottom Road route suggestion be updated with the mention of the pavement ending and turning into a rough unmaintained gravel road. I opted for it based on the recommendation from this website thinking it was paved the whole way; however, I will take the highway next time. The shoulder is wide enough for me and the 15 mph winds and 30 mph gusts would have served me better on the highway route as tailwind. On the Augusta Bottom route, these winds were cross winds, mixed with dust from the passing cars and one vehicle driver who decided to add to my challenge by screaming around me, fishtailing and stirring up enough dust that I could chew it. Never again! In Washington, most businesses are closed up by 9p. It was a Sunday so many were not even open when I arrived. I had a salmon dinner at Marquart's Landing, a bar setting with decent food, beer and service. I didn't mind the quietness of the town. It was fitting for my Katy Trail journey. Peace and serenity. The evening was spent outside stargazing and exchanging stories with the hosts who were respectful of privacy but also available for socializing. The next morning was filled with a breakfast made for a Queen. I was fueled up and ready for my final day on the Katy Trail. Day 6.


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 -  + Leaving this comment about the Hermann City Park on the McKittrick Trailhead forum as there is no forum link for Hermann. It was Octoberfest when I was riding the Trail from October 9th through the 14...
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Geo from Bentonville Transplant from Chicagoland on 10/28/24 4:39:16 PM
Leaving this comment about the Hermann City Park on the McKittrick Trailhead forum as there is no forum link for Hermann. It was Octoberfest when I was riding the Trail from October 9th through the 14th. I wanted to visit the German town of Hermann during this month. Hermann is two miles south from the McKittrick TH. It was Day 4. The City Park is $15/night with a limited number of fire rings. There is a shower house which I needed badly since Hartsburg's shower option was unavailable. You basically pick a grassy spot for a tent and call it your site. There were no more fire rings available so I built my fire in the pedestal grill located on one side of the pavilion. The pavilion has power to charge electronics and a plethora of picnic tables. The City Park was full of RVs and other tent campers; however, I was completely alone between the pavilion and playground. Occasionally a few kids would play on the equipment but at nightfall it was fairly peaceful given the fact that the park is adjacent to Highway 19. I discovered Stone Hill Winery was .5 miles away and ready for a break after setting up camp so I rode the half mile, up a VERY steep hill to the winery where I bought a bottle of wine and sat at a picnic table on a hill overlooking the residential section of Hermann. Live music played in the background. They have a restaurant on site so since it was dinner time, I decided to eat there. You can bring your bottle of wine in the restaurant which I enjoyed with the best trout, fingerling potatoes and roasted Brussel sprouts. Afterwards, I rode to Casey's and bought a bundle of wood for my 'grill' fire. The next morning I enjoyed breakfast at Ainsley's. Get there early as it's popular. They take you in the order you arrived. It was delicious! Great start to Day 5's ride to Washington.


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 -  + Day 4 was from Hartsburg to Hermann, the longest ride of the journey, ~60 miles. In my research, there aren't any food options between these two points. After reading some reviews of Happy Trails Katy...
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Geo from Bentonville Transplant from Chicagoland on 10/28/24 4:15:43 PM
Day 4 was from Hartsburg to Hermann, the longest ride of the journey, ~60 miles. In my research, there aren't any food options between these two points. After reading some reviews of Happy Trails Katy-ring Service, I decided to give it a try. I called Rachel who answered right away. She informed me that this is not her 'business' rather it is out of kindness (my words) that she provides lunch to trail riders. If she is available, she'll deliver it to you in person, otherwise, it will be waiting in the refrigerator at the Turner Shelter. She was very accommodating to my vegetarian diet. I order a veggie sandwich, veggies, fruit and pretzels. Rachel texted me in the morning of Day 4 to say my lunch which I paid for via Venmo, would be in the refrigerator labeled with my name. When I arrived around 11a, I grabbed my lunch and headed to a shaded picnic table off the trail away from the Shelter. When I laid it out on the table, I was in awe at the size of the sandwich, literally a garden on hearty whole grain bread, carrots, an apple, banana and a bag of pretzels. It was like 'mom' packed me a special lunch when I was a kid. I was emotionally overwhelmed by the generosity of the service and lunch perhaps because the journey was showing me that kindness still exists in the world. I ate the whole damn sandwich and carrots. Saved the rest for breaks down the trail. Strapped the pretzels to my handlebar roll bag so I could nibble on them along the trail. Best $15 meal I had on the trail! Highly recommend this experience.


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Hartsburg Bell Tent & Lookout in Hartsburg
 -  + The Bell Tent and Lookout was Day 3 on the journey. Traveled from New Franklin with a stop in Rocheport for breakfast and a wine tasting. The Bell Tent is obscurely located at the top of a very steep ...
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Geo from Bentonville Transplant from Chicagoland on 10/28/24 4:00:46 PM
The Bell Tent and Lookout was Day 3 on the journey. Traveled from New Franklin with a stop in Rocheport for breakfast and a wine tasting. The Bell Tent is obscurely located at the top of a very steep trail climb. It was challenging but doable if you're game and/or fit. I liked the challenge of finding the secret entrance, locking my bike up on the rack and climbing the hill to the top of a ridge that overlooked a large farm/prairie valley. The sunset was amazing from this view! The property is owned by a farming family and a young college student with an entrepreneurial spirit developed the site. It is in the forest away from the trail and very private. Once I settled in, I road into town .5 miles to grab a couple of beers to go with my veggie wrap from the winery. The next morning, I heated my egg sandwich in my cooking kit. The site is reserved through AirBnB. The tent with a Queen-sized memory foam bed was a appreciated and a compromise from sleeping on the ground the first two nights. The outdoor shower was not functioning so I had to forgo a shower until the next day. The water from the pumping sink is not potable and there is no power so be sure your electronics are fully charged and you have a back up. There is a grill, tiki torches and a small fire pit. The host was very responsive to the minor issues I had upon arrival. All in all it was a great night! Very unique and adventurous camping option which I loved!


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Meriwether Cafe and Bike Shop in Rocheport
 -  + Met a fellow Katy Trail Adventurer from Springfield, Illinois at the Boonville TH on Day 2 enroute to Katy Roundhouse. He recommended Meriwether for a trailside dining spot. Needed to restock, so I de...
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Geo from Bentonville Transplant from Chicagoland on 10/28/24 3:45:35 PM
Met a fellow Katy Trail Adventurer from Springfield, Illinois at the Boonville TH on Day 2 enroute to Katy Roundhouse. He recommended Meriwether for a trailside dining spot. Needed to restock, so I decided that would be my breakfast stop on Day 3. Morning of Day 3 after a pleasant night's sleep and the bike wash escapade, I rode 10ish miles to Meriwethers for breakfast. It is literally trailside to the north. Sat on the patio and enjoyed a cup of coffee and a delicious egg sandwich on whole grain with fresh fruit. The sandwich was a generous size so I packed the other half in my Dakine as a back up in case I couldn't find food on my way to Hartsburg which I knew does not have many options. As I headed out after breakfast for the ~33 mile trek, I stopped at the Rocheport TH and talked with riders/SAG team that mentioned a winery down the trail where I could get food for the trail. It was closer than I expected but decided not to pass up the opportunity to replenish nutrition. Blufftop A-Frame Tasting Room was ~1 mile on the north side of the trail. There is a bike rack at the base of a trail that you hike up.3 miles to the top which was a lovely hike in the forest. Once at the top, go through the parking lot to get to the A-Frame Tasting Room. I am glad I didn't pass it up because the view of the Missouri River was amazing from their expansive decking. I wasn't hungry since I just ate breakfast, so I had a glass of wine and bought a to-go veggie wrap that I ate later in Hartsburg at my campsite. Day 3 was a success!


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Katy Roundhouse in New Franklin
 -  + Day 2 night's stay. Reserved a tent spot online, confirmed with John via phone. Upon my arrival, John greeted me outside the check-in office. He familiarized me with the grounds, tent spots, shower h...
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Geo from Bentonville Transplant from Chicagoland on 10/28/24 3:16:43 PM
Day 2 night's stay. Reserved a tent spot online, confirmed with John via phone. Upon my arrival, John greeted me outside the check-in office. He familiarized me with the grounds, tent spots, shower house, and firewood location. The tent spots are primitive but there is power to charge your electronics while you shower. The stalls are deep and narrow, (which doubled as a bike wash the next morning. The trail was so dry and dusty the week I rode it due to the lack of rain for weeks that my bike looked like a ghost bike after each day. The drivetrain needed a rinse every day) so I wheeled it into the farthest stall and rinsed off the chain and cassette. Good to go for Day 3! In the evening, I enjoyed a campfire, the sounds of coyote howling to each other and the stars twinkling above. Another $10 bargain!!


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Katarina's Homestyle Cafe in Pilot Grove
 -  + Sedalia to New Franklin was Day 2 and a 40+ mile trek. Katarina's was to be my lunch stop. I learned from the cashier at Casey's that she is closed until her baby is older (may be reopening next year...
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Geo from Bentonville Transplant from Chicagoland on 10/28/24 2:53:51 PM
Sedalia to New Franklin was Day 2 and a 40+ mile trek. Katarina's was to be my lunch stop. I learned from the cashier at Casey's that she is closed until her baby is older (may be reopening next year 2025). There isn't much in Pilot Grove except Katarina's and Deon's Bar and Grill which I was informed only offers lunch on select days. It's challenging for me since I do not eat meat which is what you'll find at a lot of these diners. Casey's saved the day! They have pizza by the slice and beer in the cooler. The kitchen manager made a fresh veggie pizza while I waited. I grabbed a few protein bars, packets of Cholula, napkins, a beer and headed back to the TH for a hearty carb-filled lunch at the picnic table. Happy rider! Takeaway lesson: You can do all the research but expect the unexpected and be prepared to improvise! It's part of the adventure. :)


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Lazy Liz Horse & RV Campground in Sedalia
 -  + Lazy Liz Horse & RV Campground was my first night's stay on my Katy Trail Adventure. It's a roadside Horse Ranch repurposed into a campground and located 2 miles west of the Sedalia TH. The barn has a...
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Geo from Bentonville Transplant from Chicagoland on 10/28/24 2:42:38 PM
Lazy Liz Horse & RV Campground was my first night's stay on my Katy Trail Adventure. It's a roadside Horse Ranch repurposed into a campground and located 2 miles west of the Sedalia TH. The barn has a large patio on the backside with tables/chairs and a variety of seating. There are grills for your use and a community fire spot. Amenities include an indoor shower/bathroom (nicer and cleaner than most public restrooms), an outhouse, laundry room (BYOSoap), full hook ups for RVs, an outdoor shower which I used. It was awesome experience to shower in the fresh air and watch the sun set. Beautiful property and the hosts are very responsive. Make a reservation, drop your money in the cash box and enjoy the landscape. No frills and hassle-free! Best $10 I ever spent!

The night I stayed there were several RVs on site. They were attending a retrievers competition at the fairgrounds. With all the dogs, I expected it be a sleepless night in my tent. Turns out these dogs (estimated no less than 30 and maybe more) were either wiped out or very obedient. When 9:00p rolled around you could have heard a pin drop. I mention this as a suggestion to check local events or ask the host if large groups are expected during your stay.


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Clinton Trailhead in Clinton
 -  + I rode The Katy from Clinton to Machens starting on October 9, 2024. Prior to my journey, I spent a year and a half on and off this website and others to research the trail, TH amenities, overnight o...
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Geo from Bentonville Transplant from Chicagoland on 10/28/24 2:28:46 PM
I rode The Katy from Clinton to Machens starting on October 9, 2024. Prior to my journey, I spent a year and a half on and off this website and others to research the trail, TH amenities, overnight options, and food availability along the trail. For my adventure, I rented a car in Bentonville and dropped it off at the Enterprise dealer located 1 mile from the Clinton trailhead. (I don't own a car so this was the perfect solution). Conversely, The Bike Stop Cafe in St. Charles, Missouri, offers shuttles to/from anywhere along the trail according to my last communication with them which was September 2024. If you wanted to start in Clinton and ride east, which was recommended based on my research, you could leave your car in St Charles and shuttle to a desired trailhead. THANK YOU to the webmasters for all the valuable information on this site and riders who contributed to the forum. My journey of 278 miles in 6 days was flawless in large part due to the wealth of information on this site!


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Clark Street Lodge in Rocheport
 -  + Great place to stay. Dry nice and clean. A lot of room and beautiful town.
Discussion started 10/27/24 7:12:44 AM by Jeff Altman - 0 replies
Jeff Altman from Chalmers IN on 10/27/24 7:12:44 AM
Great place to stay. Dry nice and clean. A lot of room and beautiful town.


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Leeton General Store in Leeton
 -  + according to Google map, Leeton General Store is permanently closed.
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Emily from Tulsa on 10/26/24 1:50:43 PM
according to Google map, Leeton General Store is permanently closed.


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Wind
 -  + I had planned to ride this coming week Clinton to St. Charles M-F The wind forecast has me a bit concerned. How sheltered or wide open is the trail generally? Would southerly gusts be a significant...
Discussion started 10/26/24 10:17:00 AM by KateM - 1 reply (last reply by Jim at 10/26/24 1:12:31 PM)
KateM from O’Fallon, IL on 10/26/24 10:17:00 AM
I had planned to ride this coming week Clinton to St. Charles M-F
The wind forecast has me a bit concerned. How sheltered or wide open is the trail generally?
Would southerly gusts be a significant problem?
I will be on a loaded to camp gravel bike. I really wanted to get the ride in before the time change and water shut offs 11/1.
Anyone ridden in Nov care to comment if I delay? Thank you.

 
Jim from St. Thomas on 10/26/24 1:12:27 PM
From Clinton to Boonville a southerly wind will be more of a tailwind. If you look at the trail map you'll see why. From Boonville on it's pretty much a crosswind. The trail is sheltered for the most part but you will hit open sections. I wouldn't worry too much about it.


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Boonville parking
 -  + Is parking at the Boonville trailhead safe for a couple nights? Thinking I might use the casino lot instead?
Discussion started 10/21/24 10:42:40 AM by Rick - 2 replies (last reply by Rick at 10/26/24 11:39:47 AM)
Rick from KC on 10/21/24 10:42:40 AM
Is parking at the Boonville trailhead safe for a couple nights? Thinking I might use the casino lot instead?

 
anonymous on 10/21/24 2:33:18 PM
We've parked at the Booneville trailhead without issue.

If using the casino lot, I'd let their security know so they didn't think it was an abandoned vehicle.

 
Rick from KC on 10/26/24 11:39:47 AM
Thanks Anonymous. Absolutely the trailhead lot was perfect and the folks working inside were first rate taking my info down and making me feel even better about parking there. NO issues and a great reminder that this trail, end to end, is just about the best thing in MO.


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School House B&B in Rocheport
 -  + Our stay at the School House B&B was wonderful! The rooms are beautiful and the bed was very comfortable! Andy is a great host and cook! Delicious breakfast! If ever in Rocheport would stay again! Si...
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D.S. from Bartelso on 10/24/24 6:50:20 PM
Our stay at the School House B&B was wonderful! The rooms are beautiful and the bed was very comfortable! Andy is a great host and cook! Delicious breakfast! If ever in Rocheport would stay again!
Sincerely,
Dianne


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Dormitory at School House B + B in Rocheport
 -  + Definitely would recommend the schoolhouse property in Rocheport Missouri along the Katie Trail for your overnight stay. The schoolhouse B&B is clean, bedding sheets are top hotel grade. The outside p...
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Love to bike from Germantown on 10/24/24 4:47:33 PM
Definitely would recommend the schoolhouse property in Rocheport Missouri along the Katie Trail for your overnight stay. The schoolhouse B&B is clean, bedding sheets are top hotel grade. The outside patio and grounds are excellent for hanging out with your friends. Breakfast was superb! do you want me to answer for you Glen? I


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